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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8327192" data-attributes="member: 7030563">The fighter has an ASI at 4th and 6th level, meaning you should already be at 20 strength before your 8th level ASI, so it is take a feat at 8th level or take an ASI in abilities that are less relevant.But even if we assume no feats, an 11th level eldritch knight using a greatsword and  NOT using GWM is doing 4d6+4d8+10+int total damage on GFB+BA attack, and he probably has an 18 intelligence since he did not take a feat at 8th level!  If he has GWF (which is a fighting style available to all fighters) that is an average of 54 DPR without using a single limited use ability, it is 90 if he uses Action SurgeAn 11th level dueling eldritch knight going sword and board with shadow blade/GFB and a BA attack is doing 8d8+14+int or 14d8+21+intx2 using action surge.  Again assuming an 18 int since he did not take any feats and he is doing an average of 54DPR and 92DPR using action surge.  He is doing this while also getting advantage in darkness or dim light.Those numbers account for rerolling 1s and 2s for the GWF and for crits for both characters but they assume no feats at all.</blockquote>