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Gizmodo Reveals OGL v1.1's 'Term Sheet' Carrots For Selected Publishers
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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 8897437" data-attributes="member: 2209"><p>4e WotC poisoned fan relationships in many dimensions. The marketing attitude towards the 3e games people were playing. No 4e OGL material. The poison pill attempt to kill off OGL stuff. The terrible one-sided revised GSL license terms compared to the OGL. Yanking old edition PDFs so that there would be less D&D alternatives out there. No online free SRD for using 4e rules.</p><p></p><p>Under the revised GSL only a few signed on. Drivethru shows <a href="https://www.drivethrurpg.com/browse.php?filters=44281_0_0_0_0&src=fid44281&affiliate_id=17596" target="_blank">less than 500 PDFs tagged as GSL</a> and there are a number of false positives.</p><p></p><p>Pathfinder came out after 4e, there are <a href="https://www.drivethrurpg.com/browse.php?filters=45787_0_0_0_0&src=fid45787&affiliate_id=17596" target="_blank">over 10,000 PDFs tagged as third-party Pathfinder 1e</a> currently on DriveThru.</p><p></p><p>As a fan of 4e stuff the GSL was hugely disappointing. It would have been great to have it under the OGL with a decent SRD.</p><p></p><p>Yes, it would be worse if they could not do that.</p><p></p><p>Not making new stuff is bad too.</p><p></p><p>Not from what we have seen. The license revision clauses are still issues similar to the GSL. Taking away the protections of the 1.0 OGL would be considered problems by many.</p><p></p><p></p><p>1.1 De-Authorization is still on the table.</p><p></p><p>I agree. They are responding to cancellations so those should continue to push them to authorize a revised OGL with 1.0 terms that are explicitly not revocable or subject to de-authorization to enable continued use of OGL stuff while removing the threat of future WotC taking up that line of legal argument and threat again.</p><p></p><p>I like D&D. I like 5e. I like past versions and stuff for them. I want new OGL stuff. I want OGL stuff to continue, 5e has been thriving under the OGL and I do not want that to change.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 8897437, member: 2209"] 4e WotC poisoned fan relationships in many dimensions. The marketing attitude towards the 3e games people were playing. No 4e OGL material. The poison pill attempt to kill off OGL stuff. The terrible one-sided revised GSL license terms compared to the OGL. Yanking old edition PDFs so that there would be less D&D alternatives out there. No online free SRD for using 4e rules. Under the revised GSL only a few signed on. Drivethru shows [URL='https://www.drivethrurpg.com/browse.php?filters=44281_0_0_0_0&src=fid44281&affiliate_id=17596']less than 500 PDFs tagged as GSL[/URL] and there are a number of false positives. Pathfinder came out after 4e, there are [URL='https://www.drivethrurpg.com/browse.php?filters=45787_0_0_0_0&src=fid45787&affiliate_id=17596']over 10,000 PDFs tagged as third-party Pathfinder 1e[/URL] currently on DriveThru. As a fan of 4e stuff the GSL was hugely disappointing. It would have been great to have it under the OGL with a decent SRD. Yes, it would be worse if they could not do that. Not making new stuff is bad too. Not from what we have seen. The license revision clauses are still issues similar to the GSL. Taking away the protections of the 1.0 OGL would be considered problems by many. 1.1 De-Authorization is still on the table. I agree. They are responding to cancellations so those should continue to push them to authorize a revised OGL with 1.0 terms that are explicitly not revocable or subject to de-authorization to enable continued use of OGL stuff while removing the threat of future WotC taking up that line of legal argument and threat again. I like D&D. I like 5e. I like past versions and stuff for them. I want new OGL stuff. I want OGL stuff to continue, 5e has been thriving under the OGL and I do not want that to change. [/QUOTE]
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