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[Gleemax]Another thing not to like.
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<blockquote data-quote="GVDammerung" data-source="post: 3679850" data-attributes="member: 33060"><p>From the Gleemax blog of Randy Buehler -</p><p></p><p>"Once Gleemax goes live and our new Terms of Use and Terms of Service kick in, you will retain ownership of any content you post (well, any content that you owned in the first place, anyway. And, of course, you are prohibited from violating or infringing the rights of others.). The one thing you do grant to us by posting your content onto our site is the right to use it as we please. . . .</p><p></p><p>Note that you are allowed (solely per the terms of the Terms of Use and Terms of Service) to use our IP when generating content that you put on our site, however you are not allowed to then publish that content anywhere else." </p><p></p><p>Please note there are two pieces to this - 1) we can use whatever you post and 2) you post it here, you can not "publish" it elsewhere. These two demandments work hand in hand, the second supporting the first.</p><p></p><p>I find both worth thinking about. Here's why. On Canonfire.com, I have posted over 100 articles that have to do with Greyhawk. Some are Wotc IP heavy and some are Wotc IP light. I have on my hard drive a number of additional articles that I've written but not yet posted to Canonfire to include a 300 page mini-GH setting that has taken me over a year and a half to write. Now, I look at Gleemax' terms and conditions.</p><p></p><p>First Point, I have zero issue with Wotc using what I post. Greyhawk is a dead setting for all intents and purposes outside of Living Greyhawk and were Wotc to want to use my mini-setting I'd be pleased as punch because that would mean Greyhawk was being revived. I'm also going to imagine that if they were interested enough to want touse what I've written they would toss me a by-line as otherwise the next guy might steer well clear of Gleemax. So, no problem with the first point.</p><p></p><p>Second Point, if I drop my 300 page mini-GH setting on Gleemax, can I also post it to Canonfire? Arguably, reposting to Canonfire would be electronic publishing, just not for a profit. It would violate Gleemax policy as I read it and quote it above. This I would have a problem with. </p><p></p><p>I would like and would have every intention of using Gleemax. But I will not abandon Canonfire for Gleemax. I would like to use both.</p><p></p><p>Imagining that my reading of the "no publishing elsewhere" language is correct, I have a problem with Gleemax and I think I'm one of the fan creators that Gleemax would like to have participate, even though my interest is in lowly Greyhawk. I'd like to see clarification on this point. </p><p></p><p>Does Wotc mean, "not published elsewhere for profit?" That would clear matters up for me as I do fan creations as a hobby and for free.</p><p></p><p>One thought that comes to mind is that if ANY other publication is forbidden after posting to Gleemax, maybe I skate if I "publish" to Canonfire first and only AFTER that post to Gleemax. Arguably, I'm within the rules as I read them.</p><p></p><p>I'd be happy to post creative material to Gleemax, happy to let Wotc be able to use it, happy not to make a dime but I would not be happy to have my work be Gleemax exclusive.</p><p></p><p>Little help?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GVDammerung, post: 3679850, member: 33060"] From the Gleemax blog of Randy Buehler - "Once Gleemax goes live and our new Terms of Use and Terms of Service kick in, you will retain ownership of any content you post (well, any content that you owned in the first place, anyway. And, of course, you are prohibited from violating or infringing the rights of others.). The one thing you do grant to us by posting your content onto our site is the right to use it as we please. . . . Note that you are allowed (solely per the terms of the Terms of Use and Terms of Service) to use our IP when generating content that you put on our site, however you are not allowed to then publish that content anywhere else." Please note there are two pieces to this - 1) we can use whatever you post and 2) you post it here, you can not "publish" it elsewhere. These two demandments work hand in hand, the second supporting the first. I find both worth thinking about. Here's why. On Canonfire.com, I have posted over 100 articles that have to do with Greyhawk. Some are Wotc IP heavy and some are Wotc IP light. I have on my hard drive a number of additional articles that I've written but not yet posted to Canonfire to include a 300 page mini-GH setting that has taken me over a year and a half to write. Now, I look at Gleemax' terms and conditions. First Point, I have zero issue with Wotc using what I post. Greyhawk is a dead setting for all intents and purposes outside of Living Greyhawk and were Wotc to want to use my mini-setting I'd be pleased as punch because that would mean Greyhawk was being revived. I'm also going to imagine that if they were interested enough to want touse what I've written they would toss me a by-line as otherwise the next guy might steer well clear of Gleemax. So, no problem with the first point. Second Point, if I drop my 300 page mini-GH setting on Gleemax, can I also post it to Canonfire? Arguably, reposting to Canonfire would be electronic publishing, just not for a profit. It would violate Gleemax policy as I read it and quote it above. This I would have a problem with. I would like and would have every intention of using Gleemax. But I will not abandon Canonfire for Gleemax. I would like to use both. Imagining that my reading of the "no publishing elsewhere" language is correct, I have a problem with Gleemax and I think I'm one of the fan creators that Gleemax would like to have participate, even though my interest is in lowly Greyhawk. I'd like to see clarification on this point. Does Wotc mean, "not published elsewhere for profit?" That would clear matters up for me as I do fan creations as a hobby and for free. One thought that comes to mind is that if ANY other publication is forbidden after posting to Gleemax, maybe I skate if I "publish" to Canonfire first and only AFTER that post to Gleemax. Arguably, I'm within the rules as I read them. I'd be happy to post creative material to Gleemax, happy to let Wotc be able to use it, happy not to make a dime but I would not be happy to have my work be Gleemax exclusive. Little help? [/QUOTE]
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