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<blockquote data-quote="Yair" data-source="post: 3682377" data-attributes="member: 10913">I'm certain WotC considers putting stuff on Canonfire publishing. However, the concern that this won't be allowed is, I believe, based on misreading what Randy actually said. It is clear to me from the above that the new Terms of Service will simply allow you to use WotC's IP on Gleemax; use of the IP under other agreements (i.e. not &quot;solely per the terms of teh Terms of Use and Terms of Service&quot;) isn't compromised. The reason you can't publish elsewhere, Randy says, is that it's Wizard's IP, not OGL - not because of Gleemax' terms of use.The problem of non-WotC PI remains. I can't see how anyone will agree to post non-WotC PI to Gleemax under these terms of use; anyone that would will lose all exclusivity over these terms. That's economical suicide. This is so out of line with the site's aim, that I'm confident that this gaff will either not be present in the actual legal terms, or will soon be corrected. I believe WotC will only own property* that uses its own IP, and only to the extent that it doesn't draw on others' IP; this will be fair, and allow other publishers and companies to use the site.* Oh, sorry, &quot;the right to use it as we please&quot; - unlimited but non-exclusive rights.Edit: Another Comment-What killed d20 System licensing, IMO, was WotC's change of license. At least, it was a dominant factor. Companies saw WotC could change the license from under them specifically to undermine their products. It wasn't likely, but it was possible, and they didn't want to put themselves in that position. Developing an OGL line was seen as superior.WotC's &quot;ever changing terms of use&quot; will do the same. No company will agree to post things to a place where it constantly needs to look at the terms of use, and WotC can change them to whatever on their whim. Too dangerous. WotC really hasn't learned from the Valterra debacle.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Yair, post: 3682377, member: 10913"] I'm certain WotC considers putting stuff on Canonfire publishing. However, the concern that this won't be allowed is, I believe, based on misreading what Randy actually said. It is clear to me from the above that the new Terms of Service will simply allow you to use WotC's IP on Gleemax; use of the IP under other agreements (i.e. not "solely per the terms of teh Terms of Use and Terms of Service") isn't compromised. The reason you can't publish elsewhere, Randy says, is that it's Wizard's IP, not OGL - not because of Gleemax' terms of use. The problem of non-WotC PI remains. I can't see how anyone will agree to post non-WotC PI to Gleemax under these terms of use; anyone that would will lose all exclusivity over these terms. That's economical suicide. This is so out of line with the site's aim, that I'm confident that this gaff will either not be present in the actual legal terms, or will soon be corrected. I believe WotC will only own property* that uses its own IP, and only to the extent that it doesn't draw on others' IP; this will be fair, and allow other publishers and companies to use the site. * Oh, sorry, "the right to use it as we please" - unlimited but non-exclusive rights. Edit: Another Comment- What killed d20 System licensing, IMO, was WotC's change of license. At least, it was a dominant factor. Companies saw WotC could change the license from under them specifically to undermine their products. It wasn't likely, but it was possible, and they didn't want to put themselves in that position. Developing an OGL line was seen as superior. WotC's "ever changing terms of use" will do the same. No company will agree to post things to a place where it constantly needs to look at the terms of use, and WotC can change them to whatever on their whim. Too dangerous. WotC really hasn't learned from the Valterra debacle. [/QUOTE]

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