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[Gleemax]Another thing not to like.
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<blockquote data-quote="Yair" data-source="post: 3684136" data-attributes="member: 10913"><p>That's <em>one</em> case. My solution isn't "perfect" in that it allows Wizards to do that, but it at least offers protection to those willing to invest in it. If you're just a fan posting on Wizard's boards, you'll still need to trust Wizard's goodwill not to publish your work. But if you're not inclined to trust them, you could protect yourself with relatively no effort. This is especially important to publishers, that can now discuss their published works without risk of WotC taking over. For example...</p><p></p><p>(a) Ryacanda posts material to Gleemax, based on his E6 system. Perhaps he just posts the system.</p><p>(b) WotC takes it and publishes it.</p><p>(c) He tries to sue WotC, pointing out that the material has been posted before WotC used it.</p><p>(d) WotC shrugs and points out that he can't use the fact that it was posted to Gleemax as evidence.</p><p>(e) He shrugs and point out that E7 was previously published under the OGL on a different site, establishing prior art not on Gleemax and so admissable..</p><p>(f) Ryacanda still get defeated in court by Hasbaro's 10k$-an-hour lawyers <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/nervous.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":heh:" title="Nervous Laugh :heh:" data-shortname=":heh:" /> </p><p></p><p>Compare with</p><p>(a) Ryacanda posts material to Gleemax, based on his E6 system. Perhaps he just posts the system.</p><p>(b) WotC takes it and publishes it.</p><p>(c) He tries to sue WotC, pointing out that the material has been posted before WotC used it.</p><p>(d) WotC shrugs and points out that he can't use the fact that it was posted to Gleemax as evidence.</p><p>(e) He shrugs and point out that E7 was previously published under the OGL on a different site, establishing prior art not on Gleemax and so admissable.</p><p>(f) WotC shrugs and notes that Gleemax' TOS allows them to do whatever they want with material posted to it regardless of prior art.</p><p>(g) The judge dismisses the case. WotC for the win!</p><p></p><p>That's a big difference.</p><p></p><p>And I'm not advocating for my solution, necessarily. I'm just saying creative solutions <em>can</em> be found. Perhaps they better say "The Presumption will be that WotC did not derive any material from content published on Gleemax", or "Members with the Publisher status do not grant Wizards any rights to publish material based on their contributions, except on the Gleemax site, its archives, etc... ", or whatever. I don't know. I am just sure that if they think good and hard on what they want Gleemax to be and achieve, they can put it in legalese.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No, that's not quite right. WotC has a section on the site where you can post what you want safely. But that doesn't protect any content published outside these areas, including material that has been previously published somewhere else (e.g. material posted on those safe pages can still be exploited if its also posted elsewhere on Gleemax).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yair, post: 3684136, member: 10913"] That's [i]one[/i] case. My solution isn't "perfect" in that it allows Wizards to do that, but it at least offers protection to those willing to invest in it. If you're just a fan posting on Wizard's boards, you'll still need to trust Wizard's goodwill not to publish your work. But if you're not inclined to trust them, you could protect yourself with relatively no effort. This is especially important to publishers, that can now discuss their published works without risk of WotC taking over. For example... (a) Ryacanda posts material to Gleemax, based on his E6 system. Perhaps he just posts the system. (b) WotC takes it and publishes it. (c) He tries to sue WotC, pointing out that the material has been posted before WotC used it. (d) WotC shrugs and points out that he can't use the fact that it was posted to Gleemax as evidence. (e) He shrugs and point out that E7 was previously published under the OGL on a different site, establishing prior art not on Gleemax and so admissable.. (f) Ryacanda still get defeated in court by Hasbaro's 10k$-an-hour lawyers :heh: Compare with (a) Ryacanda posts material to Gleemax, based on his E6 system. Perhaps he just posts the system. (b) WotC takes it and publishes it. (c) He tries to sue WotC, pointing out that the material has been posted before WotC used it. (d) WotC shrugs and points out that he can't use the fact that it was posted to Gleemax as evidence. (e) He shrugs and point out that E7 was previously published under the OGL on a different site, establishing prior art not on Gleemax and so admissable. (f) WotC shrugs and notes that Gleemax' TOS allows them to do whatever they want with material posted to it regardless of prior art. (g) The judge dismisses the case. WotC for the win! That's a big difference. And I'm not advocating for my solution, necessarily. I'm just saying creative solutions [i]can[/i] be found. Perhaps they better say "The Presumption will be that WotC did not derive any material from content published on Gleemax", or "Members with the Publisher status do not grant Wizards any rights to publish material based on their contributions, except on the Gleemax site, its archives, etc... ", or whatever. I don't know. I am just sure that if they think good and hard on what they want Gleemax to be and achieve, they can put it in legalese. No, that's not quite right. WotC has a section on the site where you can post what you want safely. But that doesn't protect any content published outside these areas, including material that has been previously published somewhere else (e.g. material posted on those safe pages can still be exploited if its also posted elsewhere on Gleemax). [/QUOTE]
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