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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Virel" data-source="post: 3711812" data-attributes="member: 24633">It's actually, all ment in good fun. I've been thru this before several times actually. Didn't have the internet back in 1989 when 2e showed up so it wasn't as easy to talk with folks etc. Of course, when 3e appeared in 2000, lived thru it again. While I am poking a little fun at my 3e D&D counter parts and the irony of GleeMax, it also pokes a little fun back at me, an admitted old-skooler as being you know the normal vindictive, stick in the mud, grognard for never getting with any of the new edition programs, some of us AD&Der's are know for. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> With that said, I really do feel for the players and game shops that have suck a good bit of money into 3e. In part, this is why I think the older versions have a lot still going for them. While cost isn't an issue for me in gaming, being able to get a minty PHB, MM, DMG for decent game for less than the cost of a new PHB is pretty good.There is also this little gem to think about, 2000 3e, 2003 3.5, 2008 4th, if you stay with the game, things will change again in a few years. Everything that is old will be new and visa versa.Stability can be good for game groups, if they survive for years. My AD&D game has been going for over 20 years.I'll also admit, I've taken a lot of grief from my 3e friends for a long time, so I'm poking a little back, in what I hope is seen as a good natured way.Cheers.</blockquote>

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