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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 4404442" data-attributes="member: 48965">For all those claiming that Gleemax has nothing&nbsp; to do with WotC's plans for 4e I would say there is strong evidence that you are wrong.&nbsp; Now hear me out...Gleemax was always planned to produce revenue, with a model that is similar to the one now being used by DDI.&nbsp; There was free content, just like DDI and then there was premium content... as well as pay as you go items (similar to the virtual minis and PDF books for DDI).&nbsp; In fact, as I stated in another thread, I believe Gleemax was actually based on a model for generating more revenue than DDI, as it was structured to appeal to a wider range of &quot;gamers&quot; as opposed to &quot;rpg players who primarily play D&amp;D&quot;... which is a niche within a niche.&nbsp; I think this assumption is also supported by the fact that Gleemax has had more work done on it and was rolled out first.&nbsp; With all this said it begs the question, someone had to front the bill for this expensive digital initiative and that would be WotC.&nbsp; Now I think the fact that it has failed without generating any revenue but definitely accruing cost has put a pinch on WotC.&nbsp; Thus the &quot;refocus&quot; on D&amp;D and MtG as their primary brands (though I wonder where SW saga ed. fits into this?).Now if DDI is also vaporware or fails badly... what's left to cut, in order to make up for the costs?&nbsp; Regardless of how much the corebooks sold for 4e, do people really think WotC is going to cut MtG as opposed to D&amp;D?&nbsp; Get real, D&amp;D will be the next to fall and we will get some line about WotC refocusing back to their roots of CCG's.&nbsp; So yeah I think the success or failure of DDI may have a profound effect on D&amp;D 4e.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 4404442, member: 48965"] For all those claiming that Gleemax has nothing to do with WotC's plans for 4e I would say there is strong evidence that you are wrong. Now hear me out... Gleemax was always planned to produce revenue, with a model that is similar to the one now being used by DDI. There was free content, just like DDI and then there was premium content... as well as pay as you go items (similar to the virtual minis and PDF books for DDI). In fact, as I stated in another thread, I believe Gleemax was actually based on a model for generating more revenue than DDI, as it was structured to appeal to a wider range of "gamers" as opposed to "rpg players who primarily play D&D"... which is a niche within a niche. I think this assumption is also supported by the fact that Gleemax has had more work done on it and was rolled out first. With all this said it begs the question, someone had to front the bill for this expensive digital initiative and that would be WotC. Now I think the fact that it has failed without generating any revenue but definitely accruing cost has put a pinch on WotC. Thus the "refocus" on D&D and MtG as their primary brands (though I wonder where SW saga ed. fits into this?). Now if DDI is also vaporware or fails badly... what's left to cut, in order to make up for the costs? Regardless of how much the corebooks sold for 4e, do people really think WotC is going to cut MtG as opposed to D&D? Get real, D&D will be the next to fall and we will get some line about WotC refocusing back to their roots of CCG's. So yeah I think the success or failure of DDI may have a profound effect on D&D 4e. [/QUOTE]

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