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<blockquote data-quote="phloog" data-source="post: 4406288" data-attributes="member: 59219">not to completely hijack, but on development.&nbsp;I have seen the 'triple the estimate' advice given, and I think it's common, popular, and ridiculous.&nbsp; A smart business won't triple the estimate - a smart business will go in eyes open, generate a REAL estimate, and not force it to be compressed just because it doesn't match your ideal target date.&nbsp; A project doesn't take less effort or time just because you need it by XXX.&nbsp;What also makes it ridiculous is that it can be assumed that some estimates will be CORRECT - or close to it - so now you're not only tripling the bad estimates, but the good ones as well.&nbsp;On top of that, the inputs will begin to shrink and get goofy, or other games will be played.&nbsp; &nbsp;&quot;I know they're going to triple it and that will look bad, so I'll tell them it will take two weeks instead of six&quot; - and so you should have done a x9 for that one.&nbsp;and what about someone who overestimates to be safe?&nbsp;It just seems like a bad practice, designed to get around a different set of bad practices (using the goal as the estimate, etc.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="phloog, post: 4406288, member: 59219"] not to completely hijack, but on development. I have seen the 'triple the estimate' advice given, and I think it's common, popular, and ridiculous. A smart business won't triple the estimate - a smart business will go in eyes open, generate a REAL estimate, and not force it to be compressed just because it doesn't match your ideal target date. A project doesn't take less effort or time just because you need it by XXX. What also makes it ridiculous is that it can be assumed that some estimates will be CORRECT - or close to it - so now you're not only tripling the bad estimates, but the good ones as well. On top of that, the inputs will begin to shrink and get goofy, or other games will be played. "I know they're going to triple it and that will look bad, so I'll tell them it will take two weeks instead of six" - and so you should have done a x9 for that one. and what about someone who overestimates to be safe? It just seems like a bad practice, designed to get around a different set of bad practices (using the goal as the estimate, etc.) [/QUOTE]

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