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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Abstruse" data-source="post: 9087153" data-attributes="member: 6669048">There are two big issues when it comes to algorithmically generated content.1) Corporations using algorithmic generation to replace workers.This is the one that gets the most attention because it's the one that's easiest to understand: Automation replacing workers, only it's worse because the end product isn't as good. Thanks to the WGA, more people (but not a majority by a long shot) are also understanding the issue with use of generative algorithms to create a "first draft" that artists/writers are brought in to "edit" or "touch up" that are complete and utter garbage requiring more work to "fix" than to create from scratch, meanwhile they're being offered a small fraction of what they would get if they had been commissioned to create it from scratch and they're being denied credit in favor of the "real creator", the person who type a bunch of keywords into a search bar.2) The work of artists and writers being scraped or otherwise added to databases for generative algorithms without compensation to the creators, their permission to use the work, and/or the ability to opt out.This one's not as well-known but it's been one of the major sticking points for artists since the generative algorithms moved beyond the "acid trip" stage of image generation a couple of years ago. It was also brought up constantly in 2022 even before the current post-NFT-crash hype for the techbro's new shiny buzzword. It's been a huge deal for a lot of art software that are sneaking provisions into terms of service to allow scraping (a lot of artists are fleeing from Adobe because of it, myself included for video editing...okay technically it's because my copy of Premiere doesn't accept a lot of common file types and I'm not paying a subscription, but it sounds better to make it a moral stance).So the big ethical issues involved here are making sure that creative workers can continue to earn a living doing their work and ensuring that any generative algorithm databases are sourced from public domain art/writing or art/writing that has been specifically approved by the creator for that use. For the last one, not just the copyright holder (because then companies could just shove all the art and writing they've commissioned over the years as work-for-hire and own the rights to), but approval from the creator since it can be used to duplicate their style and drastically reduce their ability to earn a living through their work.</blockquote>

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