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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BookTenTiger" data-source="post: 8150883" data-attributes="member: 6685541">This sounds like an awesome campaign. GoT style politics, intrigue, and body count, but there are elves and rifles and orcs. I'd play it in a heartbeat.In your scenario, it's obvious that the GM and players don't want to play the same game.What I notice in a lot of these discussions is that the priority seems to be "Protect the GM's vision."I call bullpucky on that. The GM's vision is no more or less important than anyone else's. I don't care if the GM spent $100,000 on all the books and minis and has spent 25 years perfecting their campaign world. If you are getting together with a group of human beings for a group activity, it should be expected that everyone's voice is heard equitably.If we shift the goal to "Play an RPG everyone will enjoy" then the solution is obvious.Throw some elves and guns and orcs in there, or play something else!Overall though, the group in your hyperbolic example seems extremely engaged, and that's awesome. They're just not engaged in the DM's singular vision.Still, I would play the heck out of that campaign!</blockquote>