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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 9613818" data-attributes="member: 6785785">You misinterpreted my point in the first “You” above. This is because you’re ignoring the context of the discussion as it was, between [USER=7044566]@thefutilist[/USER] and me.So again… in the example the DM decided by fiat how the assassin’s former lover reacted to the assassin’s request to take him back. So my comments were about a situation where the DM in a D&D game had a situation that was uncertain and decided the outcome by fiat.In Apocalypse World, that wouldn’t be how it’s handled. If the outcome is certain, then the GM would just say so. Since it’s not, they would go to the dice.Now… I know that’s similar to how the process is described in the D&D rulebooks… but in the specific example my comments were based upon… that DM handled it differently.So when you came into the conversation, I assumed you had been following and understood the context of my comments. Because this was a case where the DM decided to handle it differently than the general process described in the books, I figured you were defending that decision as an instance of Rule Zero. Hence my asking you about that.You can try and make any point you like, Max. But if you jump into a conversation that’s ongoing between two other participants, don’t be surprised when they assume you’ve been following that conversation and understand the context.No.The assassin has asked his lover to forgive him. He pleads his case to her. She can choose to forgive him or not.Resolution Method 1- the DM decides she does not forgive him. The DM considers all the factors that have been established in play, the history between the PC and NPC, the NPC’s current outlook, and any other relevant factors. He then renders his decision.Resolution Method 2- dice are used to determine how the NPC reacts.Result 2A- she does not forgive him. The GM considers the same factors as above and explains the NPC’s decision.Result 2B- she does forgive him. The GM considers all the relevant factors and then explains why the NPC forgives the assassin.My question to [USER=7044566]@thefutilist[/USER] was how Resolution Method 1 resulted in an act of creativity by the GM that Resolution Method 2 somehow lacked. Because from what I can see, they both involve the same amount of creativity. The only difference is the means of the decision made.So… I hope now that I’ve elaborated to this extent that you’re able to understand the original discussion and can approach the topic with that in mind.</blockquote>

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