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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 9617500" data-attributes="member: 6785785">I tell you what... you pull out your imagination, and I'll pull out mine, and we'll measure them and then see who has the biggest!Genre limits exist. A helicopter would not show up in Middle-Earth. A helicopter could not logically lift a giant out of an avalanche on a rope ladder. We were talking about a specific instance of play... the PCs triggered an avalanche that fell on a giant... what happens? There are only so many answers to that question. Yes, you can imagine the answer to be "The Mad Hatter decides to make jello" but it would have nothing to do with the scenario, so it's pointless. You would intentionally limit yourself to what is relevant. Or at least I think you would. Maybe you bloodtide wouldn't, but I mean like the general "you". So you said that the players have a vested interest in the game because they have a single PC. Then you explained how you have an entire multiverse to take care of. So if the players are invested over a single PC, why aren't you invested with a whole multiverse? If you're not, then I'd argue neither are the players. Yes, making something tasty and doing it well is harder the fewer ingredients you have. I'm kind of amazed to have to type that. And I never said my creativity was amazing. No, the game of Spire takes place entirely within the miles-high city of Spire. And although there are maps of each of the many districts of the city, none of them are so complete that an inn or tavern cannot be added to pretty much any area. So they are not altering the game's reality. They are revealing the game's reality. And that prompts me as a GM to think about the landlord of the inn and decide how he feels about the Knight, and what else he may be up to that might offer an opportunity or trouble for the characters. I can't just look at the adventure I wrote a month ago with my unlimited power and say "now this happens"... I have to actively incorporate this new information into the game. Yeah, the NPC believes them. I then play them accordingly. None of my players have used it to declare anything quite as absurd as your example, of course, but they definitely got creative. And I had the NPCs accept it and honored that all in how play went from there. What are you talking about? I'd be willing to bet that half your game is the players asking you stuff and you telling them. That's a foundational element of GMing. I also expect that in your game, there's plenty that you don't tell them. Again, you have failed to understand how the rule actually works. You did not ask me to do that. You asked me:So that's what I answered. But I think I elaborated above when talking about the Pubcrawler ability. The player is allowed to introduce new elements to play, and I then have to incorporate them right there in play. I can't do it months ahead of time and edit and revise it as needed, and then clobber the players over the head with it. I have to react to what the player did, and in a way that matters to play. Not odd at all, actually. Certainly no less odd than your whole "from my cold dead hand" take on authority.</blockquote>

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