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<blockquote data-quote="AnotherGuy" data-source="post: 9620805" data-attributes="member: 7029930"><p>You've just described me <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>I played a +10-hour duet last Saturday (2:30pm-1am including) whereby the PC was wrapping up their mini-campaign stint in Sigil and was attempting to return home to Toril to join the rest of the party by doing a <em>leap of faith </em>through one of the portals that appeared to be the most promising from all the research and investigation they had done. He knew he was teleporting into a forested locale which looked like a Prime.</p><p></p><p>So, I created many tables, the first of which (d6) being:</p><p>1-3 - A Prime World (which directed you to another table with 21 Prime settings)</p><p> 4 - Feywild</p><p>5-6 - Outlands (which directed you to another table with 6 Outlands which could fit the description from the research done)</p><p></p><p>I had handful of scenarios (6-7) mapped out which I could use for interesting encounters in various Primes which I wanted to possibly explore with the player, <strong>but for the most part I was going in blind</strong>, with DMG tables on weather conditions, internet tables on locations (aquatic, dungeon, underdark, hill, mountain, urban, forest, jungle ...etc) and a number of tables to determine which Random Encounter tables I would use.</p><p> </p><p>The idea was, Toril was entry 21 on the Prime list I created, and he would be rolling a d20.</p><p>So obviously his FIRST portal hop to a Prime was never gonna be Toril, but from then on each Prime world he experienced would be removed from the list, i.e. Toril would drop to 20, then 19-20, then 18-20 until he rolled and matched the Toril entry.</p><p></p><p>So this game very much included DM fiat with a plenty randomisation but overall the entire system was my <em>mental modelling</em> and I believe a lot of what you write in (d).</p><p>I plan to do a decent write-up of this on Enworld, but the short version is he jumped from</p><p>Sigil - Bytopia (Outlands) - Oerth (Prime) - Titan (Prime) - Mystara (Prime) - Kara-Tur (Prime) - Toril (Prime)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree with much of what you write here, but want to add:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Choosing the right DM or players for one's preferred playstyle is standard;</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The DM being alert and versatile to accommodate their players so they do not fall into some sort of <em>"same pagedness"</em>, particularly with players who would dislike this sort of style - <em>rudderless exploration</em>.</li> </ul><p>I was fortunate the player I ran this for enjoyed it thoroughly.</p><p>This was his jam, he was torn between getting back to the party and continuing with his duets. I was surprised how well it worked.</p><p>I would have likely taken a different approach with some of my other players - perhaps an extended fail forward Skill Challenge.</p><p></p><p><u>EDIT:</u> Regarding what might seem as <em>Rudderless Exploration</em> - Much of what I ran is pertinent in that the characters are on the last leg of the Toril campaign and I plan for the campaign to move forward to exploring the planes as we pursue the PCs goals/desires. So everything learned/experienced by this PC regarding the lore of the cosmos, NPCs ...etc can now be shared and useful for the party's future.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AnotherGuy, post: 9620805, member: 7029930"] You've just described me ;) I played a +10-hour duet last Saturday (2:30pm-1am including) whereby the PC was wrapping up their mini-campaign stint in Sigil and was attempting to return home to Toril to join the rest of the party by doing a [I]leap of faith [/I]through one of the portals that appeared to be the most promising from all the research and investigation they had done. He knew he was teleporting into a forested locale which looked like a Prime. So, I created many tables, the first of which (d6) being: 1-3 - A Prime World (which directed you to another table with 21 Prime settings) 4 - Feywild 5-6 - Outlands (which directed you to another table with 6 Outlands which could fit the description from the research done) I had handful of scenarios (6-7) mapped out which I could use for interesting encounters in various Primes which I wanted to possibly explore with the player, [B]but for the most part I was going in blind[/B], with DMG tables on weather conditions, internet tables on locations (aquatic, dungeon, underdark, hill, mountain, urban, forest, jungle ...etc) and a number of tables to determine which Random Encounter tables I would use. The idea was, Toril was entry 21 on the Prime list I created, and he would be rolling a d20. So obviously his FIRST portal hop to a Prime was never gonna be Toril, but from then on each Prime world he experienced would be removed from the list, i.e. Toril would drop to 20, then 19-20, then 18-20 until he rolled and matched the Toril entry. So this game very much included DM fiat with a plenty randomisation but overall the entire system was my [I]mental modelling[/I] and I believe a lot of what you write in (d). I plan to do a decent write-up of this on Enworld, but the short version is he jumped from Sigil - Bytopia (Outlands) - Oerth (Prime) - Titan (Prime) - Mystara (Prime) - Kara-Tur (Prime) - Toril (Prime) I agree with much of what you write here, but want to add: [LIST] [*]Choosing the right DM or players for one's preferred playstyle is standard; [*]The DM being alert and versatile to accommodate their players so they do not fall into some sort of [I]"same pagedness"[/I], particularly with players who would dislike this sort of style - [I]rudderless exploration[/I]. [/LIST] I was fortunate the player I ran this for enjoyed it thoroughly. This was his jam, he was torn between getting back to the party and continuing with his duets. I was surprised how well it worked. I would have likely taken a different approach with some of my other players - perhaps an extended fail forward Skill Challenge. [U]EDIT:[/U] Regarding what might seem as [I]Rudderless Exploration[/I] - Much of what I ran is pertinent in that the characters are on the last leg of the Toril campaign and I plan for the campaign to move forward to exploring the planes as we pursue the PCs goals/desires. So everything learned/experienced by this PC regarding the lore of the cosmos, NPCs ...etc can now be shared and useful for the party's future. [/QUOTE]
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