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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 9621909"><p>You are taking me way too literally. I was using clue as an analogy. But the point is what is contained in the envelope is a real mystery you can solve by opening the envelope. It would be a much different game if that info were rolled on a table at the end or players decided what was in there. Again this isn’t a crazy idea that the players in a game where the GM determines the details of the mystery before hand are really solving a mystery in this approach and that that can matter for agency. Also that takes nothing away from the approaches you are talking about (it is just acknowledging a difference between them)</p></blockquote><p></p>