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<blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 9628103" data-attributes="member: 6785785"><p>What? The article's not a mystery. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why are you framing creation and discovering as opposed things? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I didn't say you did. I don't know what prompted you to say this. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Your inability to imagine it doesn't make it impossible, as you admit here.</p><p></p><p>I personally feel more like I'm discovering something when I play The Between than I do when I play something like Call of Cthulhu. Do I feel like I'm solving a mystery? To some extent, I feel that in both games. Do I feel more so when I'm able to find the GM's deliberate clues and hooks? No... not at all. </p><p></p><p>When I play The Between, the way I feel is more active. Like what I have my character do or not do matters more. In the predetermined game, I largely feel like I'm going through the motions. I'm following predetermined pathways. Nothing about that feels much like solving a mystery or discovery to me. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think they're both so far removed from actual mystery solving that it's silly to make the comparison. As I've said, the two games have much more in common with each other than either has with solving actual mysteries. </p><p></p><p>But as for feeling as if we're solving a mystery... that's subjective. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, then Brindlewood Bay games are real mysteries? Their solution is unknown and not yet explained. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't disagree with anything about what it may feel like to someone. This has been my point... it's a subjective thing. </p><p></p><p>The idea that one method is not as close to a real world mystery as the other is, I think, faulty reasoning. It's the same mistake as people often make when they claim to be simulating something in an RPG.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hawkeyefan, post: 9628103, member: 6785785"] What? The article's not a mystery. Why are you framing creation and discovering as opposed things? I didn't say you did. I don't know what prompted you to say this. Your inability to imagine it doesn't make it impossible, as you admit here. I personally feel more like I'm discovering something when I play The Between than I do when I play something like Call of Cthulhu. Do I feel like I'm solving a mystery? To some extent, I feel that in both games. Do I feel more so when I'm able to find the GM's deliberate clues and hooks? No... not at all. When I play The Between, the way I feel is more active. Like what I have my character do or not do matters more. In the predetermined game, I largely feel like I'm going through the motions. I'm following predetermined pathways. Nothing about that feels much like solving a mystery or discovery to me. I think they're both so far removed from actual mystery solving that it's silly to make the comparison. As I've said, the two games have much more in common with each other than either has with solving actual mysteries. But as for feeling as if we're solving a mystery... that's subjective. So, then Brindlewood Bay games are real mysteries? Their solution is unknown and not yet explained. I don't disagree with anything about what it may feel like to someone. This has been my point... it's a subjective thing. The idea that one method is not as close to a real world mystery as the other is, I think, faulty reasoning. It's the same mistake as people often make when they claim to be simulating something in an RPG. [/QUOTE]
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