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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 9629508">Because it is a game. Games are not like cars or computers. There are trends. And you can build on ideas over time. But you can do that in literature and music too and I wouldn't call either of those technology (they do use technology, the invention of the piano is significant for example). But I wouldn't call a D minor scale technology. To me calling it technology creates the false impression that it like cars advancing. But people are still playing games happily that were invented in the 30s or 40s (and in the case of chess even older). Sure but I also think music theory does a much better job of explaining music (though I have my quibbles about it for sure) than the explanations in this thread of how RPGs work. And I don't think that is for want of trying, but because RPG play is so much more fluid. I can write out inventions in D minor in notation and you can play it by looking at it. If I write out a D&D scenario 10 different GMs will play it differently. That makes evaluating technique a lot harder I am not saying we can't evaluate technique. But systems of analysis can also be used to make things less understandable. Breaking down ideas in RPGs are not absent from my side of the net here. Where I think we differ it thinking the process can be broken down at the smallest scale. Also music theory functions the more expansive it is. The more music theory is used to appreciate how Mongolian Thoard singing works, rather than disprove that its music, the better it is. For many years for example, there were serious arguments advanced using music theory to say Rap music wasn't proper music. But obviously rap is music. Yet back when people were making these arguments, if you weren't versed in music theory, it was incredibly difficult to counter a position that was obviously untrue like that. If people were using music theory to argue that mongolian throat singers aren't really singing the way they think they are, or that people who like mongolian throat music are deluding themselves, you can bet there would be enormous push back (and rightfully so) Arts and crafts all make use of technology. And techniques can evolve and improve over time. But I don't think that makes the pursuit itself a form of technology. We have more complex harmonies in music now than we did before. Does that mean a three note chord is technology? I think it is a technique, but not technology but I can communicate them. Just not to your liking. The language you find vague works 90 percent of the time for me. I am not saying dont try explain. But I think doing so as if you have found 'the answer' is a problem. And I think saying there is only one wya to analyze and discuss RPGs is a problemExcept I did explain why the other case wasn't a real mystery (and if I remember you agreed with the distinction I was making even if you didn't agree fully with my use of language)</blockquote>

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