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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Campbell" data-source="post: 9629773" data-attributes="member: 16586">[USER=85555]@Bedrockgames[/USER]The problem with discussing the play practices you are talking about in the way you talk about them to others who play that way is the same fundamental problem you get when discussing method acting with method actors. The language in use does not account for other ways of playing/acting as legitimate/real. It has no way to compare and contrast its methodology with other methodologies because it casts them aside as illegitimate or only playing at doing thing / engaging in fakery.It does not imagine there is any other way. It says we are really doing the thing, and you are not (if you do not do it our way).On a basic level it should be obvious that some adjustments in language need to be made when discussing things with people not coming from our communities. That say when discussing say Apocalypse World if I make no effort to do so in a way that is not deeply steeped in the language of Story Now play culture than I am not likely to be successful communicating with people not deeply steeped in that play culture. The same is true when discussing trad games with people who are not deeply steeped in that culture of play. There's this sense that instead of meeting us halfway you expect us to meet you where you are (with no expectation you will do anything on your own to understand where we are coming from).</blockquote>