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<blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 9629819"><p>I am in a doctor’s waiting room on phone so forgive me if my replies are not thorough. I am not saying don’t apply rpg theory. I am saying do so if you want. But I do think the theory you are drawing on, while it might work well for explaining certain styles of play, doesn’t work well when illuminating what you guys call trad play. I was also saying even something like music theory, which I think is much more demonstrably effective than RPG theory, can have blind spots that fail to capture nuance (for example the difficulty that microtones present in a theory of music based on 12 tones). Now music theory tends to expand and adapt. So it has attempted to address this problem. But there is this insistence in these conversations that we have to adopt your language, way of analysis, and even conclusions.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That isn’t what I said. I said some people don’t have fluency in the language you use and use broader language. I am not saying all bakers shouldn’t learn chemistry. I am saying for some it might be counter productive or steer them away from what they are doing that already is working</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>this doesn’t undercut point 2 at all. Some people benefit from more music theory. Some people don’t. Because people are all different. For some people music theory provides enormous clarity, for others it gets in the way or they just find it frustrating (there is a meme among musicians with a picture of a music teacher instructing a class saying “come on it’s not rocket science” followed by a rocket scientist teaching a class saying “come on it’s not music theory”. And again I have to make the point: music theory has a much better track record I think than RPG theory (which is extremely contentious among gamers)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 85555, post: 9629819"] I am in a doctor’s waiting room on phone so forgive me if my replies are not thorough. I am not saying don’t apply rpg theory. I am saying do so if you want. But I do think the theory you are drawing on, while it might work well for explaining certain styles of play, doesn’t work well when illuminating what you guys call trad play. I was also saying even something like music theory, which I think is much more demonstrably effective than RPG theory, can have blind spots that fail to capture nuance (for example the difficulty that microtones present in a theory of music based on 12 tones). Now music theory tends to expand and adapt. So it has attempted to address this problem. But there is this insistence in these conversations that we have to adopt your language, way of analysis, and even conclusions. That isn’t what I said. I said some people don’t have fluency in the language you use and use broader language. I am not saying all bakers shouldn’t learn chemistry. I am saying for some it might be counter productive or steer them away from what they are doing that already is working this doesn’t undercut point 2 at all. Some people benefit from more music theory. Some people don’t. Because people are all different. For some people music theory provides enormous clarity, for others it gets in the way or they just find it frustrating (there is a meme among musicians with a picture of a music teacher instructing a class saying “come on it’s not rocket science” followed by a rocket scientist teaching a class saying “come on it’s not music theory”. And again I have to make the point: music theory has a much better track record I think than RPG theory (which is extremely contentious among gamers) [/QUOTE]
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