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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 9630408" data-attributes="member: 42582">And who do you think you are disagreeing with here?That's not what the rules actually say.Page 2 says, &quot;If someone thinks it would more interesting if you failed, they describe how you might fail and roll a die.&quot; It doesn't specify who the &quot;someone&quot; is. Page 4, under the heading &quot;Unanswered Questions&quot;, goes on to say this:Who decides whether you might fail? Decide the answers with your group. Make reasonable assumptions. For example, some groups will let the Keeper decide everything. Others will share the decisions.So far from there being an explicit rule of the sort that you state, there is an explicit statement that there is no such rule! (As a general proposition: each table has to adopt its own rule as to who gets to make the call on possible failure.)When I GM Cthulhu Dark, the convention adopted is that if two PCs are in opposition, opposed dice are rolled by those players; and as GM, I might sometimes roll dice for non-PC opposition or circumstances if that is appropriate. (Applying broadly BW norms.)The only example you've given of this is a non-RPG logic puzzle - Clue(do) - and so I have set it aside.A RPG cannot work via pure logic puzzle, because the fiction matters to resolution.This is like comparing solving a crossword to scientific or mathematical investigation. The comparison, in my view, is absurd.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 9630408, member: 42582"] And who do you think you are disagreeing with here? That's not what the rules actually say. Page 2 says, "If someone thinks it would more interesting if you failed, they describe how you might fail and roll a die." It doesn't specify who the "someone" is. Page 4, under the heading "Unanswered Questions", goes on to say this: [indent]Who decides whether you might fail? Decide the answers with your group. Make reasonable assumptions. For example, some groups will let the Keeper decide everything. Others will share the decisions.[/indent] So far from there being an explicit rule of the sort that you state, there is an explicit statement that [I]there is no such rule[/I]! (As a general proposition: each table has to adopt its own rule as to who gets to make the call on possible failure.) When I GM Cthulhu Dark, the convention adopted is that if two PCs are in opposition, opposed dice are rolled by those players; and as GM, I might sometimes roll dice for non-PC opposition or circumstances if that is appropriate. (Applying broadly BW norms.) The only example you've given of this is a non-RPG logic puzzle - Clue(do) - and so I have set it aside. A RPG cannot work via pure logic puzzle, because the fiction matters to resolution. This is like comparing solving a crossword to scientific or mathematical investigation. The comparison, in my view, is absurd. [/QUOTE]

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