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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 9632521" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>The inductive reasoning that my post examplified is this: if a car is to be an instance of a realistic vehicle, than its means of propulsion is probably either an internal combustion engine or an electric motor.</p><p></p><p>What do you mean by "inductive reasoning"? When that term has been used in this thread - by you, by [USER=6790260]@EzekielRaiden[/USER] and maybe by others - I have taken it to have its standard meaning of <em>reasoning by generalisation from known and/or instanced cases</em>.</p><p></p><p>It normally contrasts with deductive reasoning (ie logical or mathematical reasoning). [USER=6790260]@EzekielRaiden[/USER] has also, in this thread, referred to <em>abductive reasoning</em>, which is also know as "argument to best explanation". Some theorists think that this is really just a form of inductive reasoning, but that's contentious.</p><p></p><p>So, to give an example:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">1 hour into the session, the GM establishes imaginary fact F1.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Then an hour later, 2 hours into the session, the GM establishes imaginary fact F2.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">In the fiction, F1 and F2 are related in some fashion - eg F1 is an effect of F2 as its cause.</p><p></p><p>In the second hour, the GM can bring their full body of knowledge and reasoning to bear on deciding to introduce F2 - including inductive reasoning about the relationship between putative F2 and already-established F1.</p><p></p><p>The only difference I can see from pre-authorship is that the GM can't now revise their ideas about F1 to accommodate some candidate F2, because the moment for editing has passed. What am I missing?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 9632521, member: 42582"] The inductive reasoning that my post examplified is this: if a car is to be an instance of a realistic vehicle, than its means of propulsion is probably either an internal combustion engine or an electric motor. What do you mean by "inductive reasoning"? When that term has been used in this thread - by you, by [USER=6790260]@EzekielRaiden[/USER] and maybe by others - I have taken it to have its standard meaning of [I]reasoning by generalisation from known and/or instanced cases[/I]. It normally contrasts with deductive reasoning (ie logical or mathematical reasoning). [USER=6790260]@EzekielRaiden[/USER] has also, in this thread, referred to [I]abductive reasoning[/I], which is also know as "argument to best explanation". Some theorists think that this is really just a form of inductive reasoning, but that's contentious. So, to give an example: [indent]1 hour into the session, the GM establishes imaginary fact F1. Then an hour later, 2 hours into the session, the GM establishes imaginary fact F2. In the fiction, F1 and F2 are related in some fashion - eg F1 is an effect of F2 as its cause.[/indent] In the second hour, the GM can bring their full body of knowledge and reasoning to bear on deciding to introduce F2 - including inductive reasoning about the relationship between putative F2 and already-established F1. The only difference I can see from pre-authorship is that the GM can't now revise their ideas about F1 to accommodate some candidate F2, because the moment for editing has passed. What am I missing? [/QUOTE]
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