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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 9635645" data-attributes="member: 6785785">No, there is clear guidance in the book. That doesn’t mean the GM is not making some decisions or having some input. No one has said that the game is free of GM input. That would be silly. What we’re saying is that there are other parts of the process that very clearly constrain the GM. Gather Information rolls are an example of that. The fact that the players choose the Score as well as the Approach and Detail is another. You’re just dismissing all of that as if it has no impact. This is exactly why your grasp of the game seems incomplete. So what? Again… he does so bound by several other player contributed factors. The issue has never been GM Authority in and of itself. This is why you misread the OP as being “anti-GM fiat”. It is how multiple instances of GM Authority interact with each other without some amount of player input or system input. Blades clearly has plenty of both. But the text of the game never even says if DCs are meant to be shared or kept secret. It literally doesn’t provide direction to the GM on whether or not to disclose a DC to the players. It doesn’t talk about the pros and cons of sharing or not sharing the DC, or how that impacts play. That’s actually pretty remarkable. Nor does the book encourage players to advocate for their view of the situation, as Blades does in regard to Position and Effect. You say that anyone can do so… but do we really need to go far to find the myriad of responses that would foster from trad GMs, ranging from “okay, you’re right DC 15 rather than 20” to “make a note and we’ll discuss after play; for now my decision stands” and on to “you don’t like it, there’s the door, this is MY table”.The amount of player advocacy in the Blades text absolutely dwarfs whatever tidbits appear in most trad books, by an order of magnitude. Oh, I don’t expect you’ll adjust your view at all, no. But I’m confident that my understanding of the game and its processes and my posts about them are more compelling an argument than your unsupported assertions.</blockquote>

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