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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Campbell" data-source="post: 9636304" data-attributes="member: 16586">[USER=85555]@Bedrockgames[/USER]I won't speak for [USER=42582]@pemerton[/USER] but he posts about play in a very technical way. Including his own breakdowns of running Traveller, D&D 4e, Cortex and others. I don't think he's blind to the artistry of play, just that focuses on those nuances makes it much harder to analyze and compare play.I think you and many others who either only play trad games or only play them as diversions from their main play, have this tendency to talk about trad play in romantic terms and to present your play not as a way to play roleplaying games, just one possible arrangement, but as either the way or the platonic way. The natural way.In doing so, I think mostly without meaning to do so you lay claim to things that do not fully belong to your particular arrangement of play. And treat other play as lesser, not by casting aspersions on the quality of play, but on treating as less real, less organic. You act as if immersion is a thing you own. Same for coherency, how real things feel.I don't think this is intentional, at least not usually. But I think there's often a tendency to double down when you get called on it, to use the language that implies your play is the platonic ideal even more.</blockquote>