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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MrMyth" data-source="post: 5188916" data-attributes="member: 61155">Well, I'll have to agree to disagree there. The existing options have let me build pretty much whatever monsters I need. And when I need to go beyond that... it may be DM fiat, but I've found 4E far more forgiving of the ability to simply add or swap abilities for monsters, and know that it remains an appropriate challenge when I am done.   Well, I think his argument was more firmly rooted in the context of most by-the-book monsters rather than hand-built NPCs. But even outside of that, I think it also came down to the fact that most melee types tend to have only one thing they do, and it usually was get into combat and full attack. Which certainly isn't an absolute truth - many monsters had abilities like grab, poison, etc.  But - especially with the very important level of mobility in 4E - I think you end up with melee fights playing out much more dynamically than they typically did in 3.5. At least it has been so in my experience. My fighter would run up to an enemy and they would trade blows, whether that enemy was a goblin or an orc or an ogre or a giant. The difference between them was pretty much just how much damage they did. In 4E, I've found myself much more likely to see that goblin manuevering about me during the fight, the orc getting his frenzy on and keep the fight going even when he should drop, the giant stomping me to the ground and stepping on me. The ogre... well, I guess the ogre still pretty much just stands there and hits things. At least one ogre does - but there are a dozen more to choose from if I really want to.  That's the sort of diversity I think Firelance was discussing.  I have no idea what you are trying to say with this sentence. Are you saying it costs more money to buy additional resource books in 4E? I'm not trying to intentionally misinterpret your words here, I'm genuinely confused - would you be able to rephrase your point? I don't know if my brain simply shut down or what, but I have absolutely no idea what that sentence is supposed to mean.</blockquote>

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