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<blockquote data-quote="Wicht" data-source="post: 5193496" data-attributes="member: 221">Where to start. First of all, there was no cheating - I would assume you would want a queen to have her high stats in intelligence, charisma and wisdom and a blacksmith would put his high stats in strength and constitution.&nbsp; A strength of 14 for your average blacksmith doesn't really seem much like cheating to me.&nbsp; Using the Pathfinder rules, as a human he gets a +2 bonus to any one stat of his choice. So even if he starts with a str 12 it becomes 14.&nbsp; Furthermore, a smith would not be a commoner, he would be an expert and typically, I would think a successful smith ought to be about level 3.&nbsp; If the queen needs in game levels to model her &quot;abilities&quot; why not the blacksmith? Of the two, I would think the smith more likely to have handled himself in a fight a time or two.&nbsp; Also, why would any smith have only 2 hitpoints? Even a 1st level commoner would have 3-4.&nbsp; Secondly, a young queen should be 1st level, and even easily dominated.&nbsp; As she gains experience, she will toughen up her mental stance, focus on improving her skills and become a more accomplished diplomat (one hopes). I think for your average non-fantasy monarch, level 6-8 is probably a good retirement level. Level 3-4 though is where I would think most monarchs spend most of their lives.&nbsp; IMO.&nbsp; Thirdly, your statement that higher level characters dominate her make me wonder if you aren't applying a double standard.&nbsp; Why would your average courtesan and diplomat be 10th level?&nbsp; PCs maybe, but I thought your assumption was PCs are exceptional anyway. If most of the people the queen deals with are only 2-4th level, then she doesn't need to be 10th to model her interactions with these folks.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wicht, post: 5193496, member: 221"] Where to start. First of all, there was no cheating - I would assume you would want a queen to have her high stats in intelligence, charisma and wisdom and a blacksmith would put his high stats in strength and constitution. A strength of 14 for your average blacksmith doesn't really seem much like cheating to me. Using the Pathfinder rules, as a human he gets a +2 bonus to any one stat of his choice. So even if he starts with a str 12 it becomes 14. Furthermore, a smith would not be a commoner, he would be an expert and typically, I would think a successful smith ought to be about level 3. If the queen needs in game levels to model her "abilities" why not the blacksmith? Of the two, I would think the smith more likely to have handled himself in a fight a time or two. Also, why would any smith have only 2 hitpoints? Even a 1st level commoner would have 3-4. Secondly, a young queen should be 1st level, and even easily dominated. As she gains experience, she will toughen up her mental stance, focus on improving her skills and become a more accomplished diplomat (one hopes). I think for your average non-fantasy monarch, level 6-8 is probably a good retirement level. Level 3-4 though is where I would think most monarchs spend most of their lives. IMO. Thirdly, your statement that higher level characters dominate her make me wonder if you aren't applying a double standard. Why would your average courtesan and diplomat be 10th level? PCs maybe, but I thought your assumption was PCs are exceptional anyway. If most of the people the queen deals with are only 2-4th level, then she doesn't need to be 10th to model her interactions with these folks. [/QUOTE]

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