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<blockquote data-quote="W'rkncacnter" data-source="post: 9311795" data-attributes="member: 7033455">okay, except if you target anyone who isn't primarily attacking (and most likely even if you do), you die. there is no &quot;taking anyone out of the fight&quot;. there is &quot;escape&quot; and there is &quot;dying horribly&quot;. those are your options.you're missing something even more fundamental then this that makes this entire section irrelevant, but i'll get to that in a moment.if you had looked at the entire purpose of the table to begin with, you'd realize i made it to check just how likely it is that the wizard can end the fight with one spell in the same way the fighter can with one attack. which gets to what you missed...there is no possible way for the BBEG to last one round fighting the party (i guess unless you hit the wizard since the cleric might not have save-for-half damage that equals the fighter's attack and the fighter and rogue might either both be out of range or miss all their attacks, but like you mentioned, with healing word on the table to bring the wizard back up there's a good chance that wouldn't do much, even with taking half the wizard's movement from standing), because of this clarification:so it's not that the party - or even just the fighter - focus firing can end the fight. it's that anyone who can match the damage output of a single one of the fighter's attacks can end the fight. this is why, really, there are absolutely no good options other then running away - because someone WILL kill you before you can really effect any other strategy. and honestly, even running away very well might not save you, it just gives you...not even the best odds. it gives you odds in general.that was my point - the bbeg is screwed unless they run away, and even then things don't look great.With the <s>Frizz</s> PCs? No way!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="W'rkncacnter, post: 9311795, member: 7033455"] okay, except if you target anyone who isn't primarily attacking (and most likely even if you do), you die. there is no "taking anyone out of the fight". there is "escape" and there is "dying horribly". those are your options. you're missing something even more fundamental then this that makes this entire section irrelevant, but i'll get to that in a moment. if [I]you [/I]had looked at [I]the entire purpose of the table to begin with[/I], you'd realize i made it to check just how likely it is that the wizard can end the fight with one spell in the same way the fighter can with one attack. which gets to what you missed... there is [I]no possible way [/I]for the BBEG to last one round fighting the party (i guess unless you hit the wizard since the cleric might not have save-for-half damage that equals the fighter's attack and the fighter and rogue might either both be out of range or miss all their attacks, but like you mentioned, with healing word on the table to bring the wizard back up there's a good chance that wouldn't do much, even with taking half the wizard's movement from standing), because of this clarification: so it's not that the party - or even just the fighter - focus firing can end the fight. it's that anyone who can match the damage output of [I]a single one of the fighter's attacks[/I] can end the fight. this is why, really, there are absolutely no good options other then running away - because [I]someone WILL kill you [/I]before you can really effect any other strategy[I]. [/I]and honestly, even running away very well might not save you, it just gives you...not even the best odds. it gives you odds in general. that was my point - [I]the bbeg is screwed[/I] unless they run away, and even then things don't look great[I].[/I] With the [S]Frizz[/S] PCs? No way! [/QUOTE]

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