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<blockquote data-quote="Halford" data-source="post: 4455087" data-attributes="member: 64844">[sblock=Psionics] Sorry to butt in, but I've always been a big fan of Psionics as both a DM and player...&nbsp;First off make sure the player and you understand the golden rule of psionics. You cannot spend more power points than your manifester level, unless you Overchannel which requiores a feat and typically deals damage to you. So many people think Psionics are broken because a player does not understand this and thinks he can do umpteen d6 of damage at 1st level.&nbsp;A Kineticist is basically the Psionic version of an evoker, all Psions must choose a discipline to which they belong and they are then able to take powers when they level up from either there own disciplines list or from a larger general pool. A Psions discipline also effects what class skills he has access to.&nbsp;However, unlike a specialist wizard it is possible for a Psion to learn powers from other disiplines, it just usually requires them to take the Expanded Knowledge feat to do so; for example, many third level psions will take a feat togain Astral Construct as a power since it basically amount to a whole summon monster line through augmentation.&nbsp;Just wait until you see Energy Missile, a Kineticist power which begins at 2nd level (all powers scale so it effectively could be used with seventeen power points and be the equivilent of a ninth level spell doing 17d6 damage or 17d6+17 if he uses fire or cold) can effect up to five targets within 15ft. of one another and allows you to choose to ignore allies since its targeted not an area effect.&nbsp;A Psion will likely appear to be significantly stronger than a wizard, which is the nearest comparison, up until tenth level or so when the Wizards sheer untility pulls him ahead. I've always been surprised they were allowed in LEW, I love them, but without other supplements its tough for other classes to compete.[/sblock]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Halford, post: 4455087, member: 64844"] [sblock=Psionics] Sorry to butt in, but I've always been a big fan of Psionics as both a DM and player... First off make sure the player and you understand the golden rule of psionics. You cannot spend more power points than your manifester level, unless you Overchannel which requiores a feat and typically deals damage to you. So many people think Psionics are broken because a player does not understand this and thinks he can do umpteen d6 of damage at 1st level. A Kineticist is basically the Psionic version of an evoker, all Psions must choose a discipline to which they belong and they are then able to take powers when they level up from either there own disciplines list or from a larger general pool. A Psions discipline also effects what class skills he has access to. However, unlike a specialist wizard it is possible for a Psion to learn powers from other disiplines, it just usually requires them to take the Expanded Knowledge feat to do so; for example, many third level psions will take a feat togain Astral Construct as a power since it basically amount to a whole summon monster line through augmentation. Just wait until you see Energy Missile, a Kineticist power which begins at 2nd level (all powers scale so it effectively could be used with seventeen power points and be the equivilent of a ninth level spell doing 17d6 damage or 17d6+17 if he uses fire or cold) can effect up to five targets within 15ft. of one another and allows you to choose to ignore allies since its targeted not an area effect. A Psion will likely appear to be significantly stronger than a wizard, which is the nearest comparison, up until tenth level or so when the Wizards sheer untility pulls him ahead. I've always been surprised they were allowed in LEW, I love them, but without other supplements its tough for other classes to compete.[/sblock] [/QUOTE]

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