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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6733888" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>I reject the 'high art', 'commercial art', 'handicraft' divide. Art in my mind is either of more exceptional craftsmanship, or it is of lesser craftsmanship. But the medium of a work of art or its status or whom it was made for separating art is I think only classist pretension. That upside down toilet counts as high art only because it was presented to people who consider themselves important. In fact, it's not art nor should the guy who signed it receive any recognition simply because of who he presents the art to. </p><p></p><p>But the guy who made the toilet, presenting it to be urinated in made a darn good urinal. Maybe he deserves some credit. The fact that the art is meant to be appreciated and used by ordinary people, in no way diminishes the art. Indeed, a lot of the best art for the past 100 years has been "commercial art". And I'm inclined to think that 100 years from now, people looking back won't think much of the "fine art" but rather think the finer art was the commercial art.</p><p></p><p>So that said, I think every DM should be striving to improve his craftsmanship to a very high level, so that his work could be accounted high art in the sense of being very well done indeed. I think that RPing can be an art form, and that those of us that love the medium, should be doing our best to be great artists, to inspire each other to better art, and when we can to share our art with each other and the larger world as a thing worth experiencing and celebrating.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6733888, member: 4937"] I reject the 'high art', 'commercial art', 'handicraft' divide. Art in my mind is either of more exceptional craftsmanship, or it is of lesser craftsmanship. But the medium of a work of art or its status or whom it was made for separating art is I think only classist pretension. That upside down toilet counts as high art only because it was presented to people who consider themselves important. In fact, it's not art nor should the guy who signed it receive any recognition simply because of who he presents the art to. But the guy who made the toilet, presenting it to be urinated in made a darn good urinal. Maybe he deserves some credit. The fact that the art is meant to be appreciated and used by ordinary people, in no way diminishes the art. Indeed, a lot of the best art for the past 100 years has been "commercial art". And I'm inclined to think that 100 years from now, people looking back won't think much of the "fine art" but rather think the finer art was the commercial art. So that said, I think every DM should be striving to improve his craftsmanship to a very high level, so that his work could be accounted high art in the sense of being very well done indeed. I think that RPing can be an art form, and that those of us that love the medium, should be doing our best to be great artists, to inspire each other to better art, and when we can to share our art with each other and the larger world as a thing worth experiencing and celebrating. [/QUOTE]
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