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<blockquote data-quote="Forrester" data-source="post: 137833" data-attributes="member: 1279">A bard just entered my campaign, and I'm trying to figure out precisely how much he can get away with with this spell. Obviously, the spell has some very strong language that I think goes a bit too far (convincing someone that a pool of acid is really a pool of water?), but hey, magic's powerful and all that. Here's the issue that *almost* arose last night; a valiant save on the enemy's part made it moot. A barbarian is in combat with a minotaur. The bard &quot;suggests&quot; to the minotaur that there might be some better prey back in the direction where he came from (trying to get the minotaur to leave combat, as the barbarian was almost dead.). He was hoping the minotaur would fail his save, leave, and best of all, walk through a threatened area, and open himself up to AoOs. Here's *my* question: it seems to me to be a stretch that the minotaur would keep walking if it were attacked *after* it was attacked -- that it would likely snap him out of his stupor, or at the very least allow him another saving throw, because he's now being asked to take an action that obviously threatens his life (not defending himself against intruders).How would you DMs have played it? (I'm not asking the players, because I *know* what they will say! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Forrester, post: 137833, member: 1279"] A bard just entered my campaign, and I'm trying to figure out precisely how much he can get away with with this spell. Obviously, the spell has some very strong language that I think goes a bit too far (convincing someone that a pool of acid is really a pool of water?), but hey, magic's powerful and all that. Here's the issue that *almost* arose last night; a valiant save on the enemy's part made it moot. A barbarian is in combat with a minotaur. The bard "suggests" to the minotaur that there might be some better prey back in the direction where he came from (trying to get the minotaur to leave combat, as the barbarian was almost dead.). He was hoping the minotaur would fail his save, leave, and best of all, walk through a threatened area, and open himself up to AoOs. Here's *my* question: it seems to me to be a stretch that the minotaur would keep walking if it were attacked *after* it was attacked -- that it would likely snap him out of his stupor, or at the very least allow him another saving throw, because he's now being asked to take an action that obviously threatens his life (not defending himself against intruders). How would you DMs have played it? (I'm not asking the players, because I *know* what they will say! :D) [/QUOTE]

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