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<blockquote data-quote="Crazy Jerome" data-source="post: 5449803" data-attributes="member: 54877">No, no, no!&nbsp; Some of you guys have got the wrong idea.&nbsp; The goal is not to fool the players (let alone the characters), with hidden dangers or the like--though those can be useful as distractions.&nbsp; What you really want to do is turn otherwise reasonable people into that, &quot;So you are telling me there is a chance?&quot; guy.&nbsp; Then when they hang their characters through their own actions, they know it was their own fault.&nbsp;That's why you leave one bullet out of the revolver.&nbsp; Then you just put them in the situation where taking a chance that has a 1 in 6 shot seem like a good idea at the time ...&nbsp;Of course, if you've got several of those people whose famous last words are, &quot;Watch This,&quot; then you don't have to go to those extremes.&nbsp; I have normally cautious players.&nbsp; &nbsp;I haven't killed a PC in years.&nbsp; I think the last time was in 2001. (Owl bears are nastier than I thought, especially when they catch the lone rogue on watch at night.) I have set up situations where the players managed to kill their characters--and a whole lot more where they didn't quite die, but could have and thought they were going to.&nbsp; (That's even more fun.&nbsp; When they get themselves into a situation where they know they are going to die, manage not to, and they think you bailed them out, when all you did was let the chips fall where they may.)&nbsp;I may not be a rat-bastard DM, but I am certainly a devious DM. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Crazy Jerome, post: 5449803, member: 54877"] No, no, no! Some of you guys have got the wrong idea. The goal is not to fool the players (let alone the characters), with hidden dangers or the like--though those can be useful as distractions. What you really want to do is turn otherwise reasonable people into that, "So you are telling me there is a chance?" guy. Then when they hang their characters through their own actions, they know it was their own fault. That's why you leave one bullet out of the revolver. Then you just put them in the situation where taking a chance that has a 1 in 6 shot seem like a good idea at the time ... Of course, if you've got several of those people whose famous last words are, "Watch This," then you don't have to go to those extremes. I have normally cautious players. I haven't killed a PC in years. I think the last time was in 2001. (Owl bears are nastier than I thought, especially when they catch the lone rogue on watch at night.) I have set up situations where the players managed to kill their characters--and a whole lot more where they didn't quite die, but could have and thought they were going to. (That's even more fun. When they get themselves into a situation where they know they are going to die, manage not to, and they think you bailed them out, when all you did was let the chips fall where they may.) I may not be a rat-bastard DM, but I am certainly a devious DM. :p [/QUOTE]

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