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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8090788" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Evidence to support these extreme assertions? Extreme assertions require extreme evidence.</p><p></p><p>I'm guessing none? There's no evidence that this sort of behaviour was more widespread in H-G populations than in, say, early-medieval Europe. Leaving children to die was common into the 1800s in a lot of the world (including the "civilized world"). It's not something people like to talk about, but it's clearly something going on.</p><p></p><p>"Forcing out" older people is also really questionable, especially if you're claiming civilizations treated old people better, when in fact they often just let them starve. Certainly some tribes, particularly those really existing on the edge, in extreme environments, have a tradition of older people intentionally self-exposing to die, but it's not a constant. There's no evidence that I'm aware of that older people were significantly better off in civilized societies in the neolithic and bronze age. Indeed, the poor nutrition a almost all agricultural peoples had suggests they may well have been worse off.</p><p></p><p>As for "able to reproduce less", yeah I suspect they did reproduce less, via whatever mechanisms. Certainly IRL H-G tribes we've encountered didn't tend to go to maximal numbers of children the way some civilized groups have done. The idea that more kids you can't feed properly is "healthier" seems pretty baseless/unsupportable though.</p><p></p><p>Finally "leaving people to die from a wound" - where's the evidence? This clearly isn't the case with H-Gs encountered in the modern era, and we know many H-G people from the neolithic survived wounds which would have taken months or even over a year to recover from. And again, how does this differ from "civilized" societies?</p><p></p><p>You seem to be attempting to compare neolithic/bronze age H-Gs with like, 1600 AD+ era civilized peoples, which is really bizarre.</p><p></p><p>Re: health, we're talking about individuals, and it certainly isn't possible to question that H-Gs were, individually, on average, healthier than early civilized peoples. You can speculate as to the reasons, but even elite castes in early civilized peoples, who were healthier than the people who toiled to feed them, were typically less healthy than H-Gs. There's also a lot more evidence of disease and parasites in settled communities (which, given there's already plenty in H-Gs, is saying something!).</p><p></p><p>This changes later, but we're talking initially.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8090788, member: 18"] Evidence to support these extreme assertions? Extreme assertions require extreme evidence. I'm guessing none? There's no evidence that this sort of behaviour was more widespread in H-G populations than in, say, early-medieval Europe. Leaving children to die was common into the 1800s in a lot of the world (including the "civilized world"). It's not something people like to talk about, but it's clearly something going on. "Forcing out" older people is also really questionable, especially if you're claiming civilizations treated old people better, when in fact they often just let them starve. Certainly some tribes, particularly those really existing on the edge, in extreme environments, have a tradition of older people intentionally self-exposing to die, but it's not a constant. There's no evidence that I'm aware of that older people were significantly better off in civilized societies in the neolithic and bronze age. Indeed, the poor nutrition a almost all agricultural peoples had suggests they may well have been worse off. As for "able to reproduce less", yeah I suspect they did reproduce less, via whatever mechanisms. Certainly IRL H-G tribes we've encountered didn't tend to go to maximal numbers of children the way some civilized groups have done. The idea that more kids you can't feed properly is "healthier" seems pretty baseless/unsupportable though. Finally "leaving people to die from a wound" - where's the evidence? This clearly isn't the case with H-Gs encountered in the modern era, and we know many H-G people from the neolithic survived wounds which would have taken months or even over a year to recover from. And again, how does this differ from "civilized" societies? You seem to be attempting to compare neolithic/bronze age H-Gs with like, 1600 AD+ era civilized peoples, which is really bizarre. Re: health, we're talking about individuals, and it certainly isn't possible to question that H-Gs were, individually, on average, healthier than early civilized peoples. You can speculate as to the reasons, but even elite castes in early civilized peoples, who were healthier than the people who toiled to feed them, were typically less healthy than H-Gs. There's also a lot more evidence of disease and parasites in settled communities (which, given there's already plenty in H-Gs, is saying something!). This changes later, but we're talking initially. [/QUOTE]
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