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<blockquote data-quote="irdeggman" data-source="post: 3055571" data-attributes="member: 16285">Actually I am looking for a class description that &quot;best&quot; fits with the racial description of the gnome. I think of the core rules that the bard comes closest. None of the other classes are a &quot;better&quot; fit and the bard does a better job of handling the interaction issue.I did point out earlier that I think the Artificer (from eberron) would be a &quot;better&quot; fit - but that is not a core class.But they aren't as good at misdirection - as in the Illusion aspect that many people want to associate with gnomes.&nbsp; The bard does both.Ahh that is where their magical spells come in. Mostly Illusion based.Compare the spells from the Illusion school and the ones that are on the Bard's list. While the Bard doesn't get all of them he does get most of them in addition to other spells that fit the gnome aspect.But in 3.5 they also gave gnomes illusion based spell like abilites that they did not have in 3.0&nbsp; So which part is &quot;scewing the pooch&quot; and which part is someone reading the specific aspect of the class (e.g., the bardic tradition) that they wish to in order to justify their position.Look at the overall picture and try to fit in what gnomes are about and what a bard can do (and is best at) and then compare these to rogues or wizards and see which is actually the &quot;best&quot; fit.Personnaly I think gnomes have historically gotten the shaft as not very well developed race. They are liek an afterthough and have never had the type of write ups that elves and dwarves have had. And while halflings also suffer from that lack of attention too - many people draw on the hobbits from Lord of the Rings as their inspiration.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="irdeggman, post: 3055571, member: 16285"] Actually I am looking for a class description that "best" fits with the racial description of the gnome. I think of the core rules that the bard comes closest. None of the other classes are a "better" fit and the bard does a better job of handling the interaction issue. I did point out earlier that I think the Artificer (from eberron) would be a "better" fit - but that is not a core class. But they aren't as good at misdirection - as in the Illusion aspect that many people want to associate with gnomes. The bard does both. Ahh that is where their magical spells come in. Mostly Illusion based. Compare the spells from the Illusion school and the ones that are on the Bard's list. While the Bard doesn't get all of them he does get most of them in addition to other spells that fit the gnome aspect. But in 3.5 they also gave gnomes illusion based spell like abilites that they did not have in 3.0 So which part is "scewing the pooch" and which part is someone reading the specific aspect of the class (e.g., the bardic tradition) that they wish to in order to justify their position. Look at the overall picture and try to fit in what gnomes are about and what a bard can do (and is best at) and then compare these to rogues or wizards and see which is actually the "best" fit. Personnaly I think gnomes have historically gotten the shaft as not very well developed race. They are liek an afterthough and have never had the type of write ups that elves and dwarves have had. And while halflings also suffer from that lack of attention too - many people draw on the hobbits from Lord of the Rings as their inspiration. [/QUOTE]

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