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<blockquote data-quote="Zander" data-source="post: 2827119" data-attributes="member: 1364"><p>Not necessarily. A mud-filled pit in the middle of a path covered by an illusion is a trick that requires no tale. Even the reason for going down the path can be a trick without a story. True. You generally require greater knowledge to trick someone.False. Having knowledge doesn't mean you have an understanding of lore, the latter being a particular kind of the former. Knowing that a pie doesn't really contain halfling flesh doesn't mean you know about the legend of the lost sword of the Red Knight of Three Dragon Island.Unfortunately, for better or worse, the D&amp;D bard is associated not with performing in general but music in particular. The rules may have bards as performers and not musicians but the vast majority of players that I have met over the years think of bards as players of lutes etc. If there were some way to break this link, perhaps gnome bards would make a bit more sense but I fear that the 'bard = musician' archetype is too deeply entrenched.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Zander, post: 2827119, member: 1364"] Not necessarily. A mud-filled pit in the middle of a path covered by an illusion is a trick that requires no tale. Even the reason for going down the path can be a trick without a story. True. You generally require greater knowledge to trick someone.False. Having knowledge doesn't mean you have an understanding of lore, the latter being a particular kind of the former. Knowing that a pie doesn't really contain halfling flesh doesn't mean you know about the legend of the lost sword of the Red Knight of Three Dragon Island.Unfortunately, for better or worse, the D&D bard is associated not with performing in general but music in particular. The rules may have bards as performers and not musicians but the vast majority of players that I have met over the years think of bards as players of lutes etc. If there were some way to break this link, perhaps gnome bards would make a bit more sense but I fear that the 'bard = musician' archetype is too deeply entrenched. [/QUOTE]

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