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<blockquote data-quote="doosler" data-source="post: 4002033" data-attributes="member: 59185"><p>Felix, my DM is going to allow me to use my bonus spell slots to cast extra level 0 and level 1 spells at 1st level (15 Int = 1 bonus level 2 per day, 17 Int = 1 bonus level 2 and 1 bonus level 3 per day). At first level I won't be able to cast any level 2 spells. But since a 15 Int allows the capacity to "hold" a bonus 2nd level spell, and since higher level spell slots can be used to cast lower level spells, I can use that 2nd level spell slot at 1st level to cast a level 0 or level 1 spell. Once I reach 3rd level and can cast 2nd level spells, that bonus level 2 spell slot can be used to cast an extra level 2 spell per day (or, if I choose, an extra level 1 or 0 spell). So, with a 17 Int I would get a bonus level 3 spell slot, which could be used to cast an additional level 0 or level 1 spell per day at 1st level. At 3rd - 4th level, when I am able to cast 2nd level spells, I will be able to use that bonus 3rd level spell slot to cast an extra 0-2 level spell per day. </p><p></p><p>I think this rule can be derived from the following language:</p><p></p><p>Spell Slots</p><p>The various character class tables show how many spells of each level a character can cast per day. These openings for daily spells are called spell slots. A spellcaster always has the option to fill a higher-level spell slot with a lower-level spell. A spellcaster who lacks a high enough ability score to cast spells that would otherwise be his or her due still gets the slots but must fill them with spells of lower level. </p><p></p><p>(I found this at <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicOverview/arcaneSpells.htm" target="_blank">http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicOverview/arcaneSpells.htm</a>)</p><p></p><p>A wizard with a 17 Int will only be able to prepare 7th level spells and below (because "to prepare a spell the wizard must have an Intelligence score of at least 10 + the spell’s level"). At 15th level, when that wizard gets his first level 8 spell slot, he won't be able to fill it with any level 8 spells, because he won't be intelligent enough to cast level 8 spells. The above quoted rule, however, allows him to utilize his level 8 spell slot to cast a lower level spell each day. </p><p></p><p>Similarly, if a wizard is so intelligent that he gets a bonus slot for a spell of a certain level, but hasn't gained enough experience to have learned any spells of that level yet, shouldn't he be able to use that slot to cast a lower level spell? </p><p></p><p>Is this against the rules? What do you guys think?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doosler, post: 4002033, member: 59185"] Felix, my DM is going to allow me to use my bonus spell slots to cast extra level 0 and level 1 spells at 1st level (15 Int = 1 bonus level 2 per day, 17 Int = 1 bonus level 2 and 1 bonus level 3 per day). At first level I won't be able to cast any level 2 spells. But since a 15 Int allows the capacity to "hold" a bonus 2nd level spell, and since higher level spell slots can be used to cast lower level spells, I can use that 2nd level spell slot at 1st level to cast a level 0 or level 1 spell. Once I reach 3rd level and can cast 2nd level spells, that bonus level 2 spell slot can be used to cast an extra level 2 spell per day (or, if I choose, an extra level 1 or 0 spell). So, with a 17 Int I would get a bonus level 3 spell slot, which could be used to cast an additional level 0 or level 1 spell per day at 1st level. At 3rd - 4th level, when I am able to cast 2nd level spells, I will be able to use that bonus 3rd level spell slot to cast an extra 0-2 level spell per day. I think this rule can be derived from the following language: Spell Slots The various character class tables show how many spells of each level a character can cast per day. These openings for daily spells are called spell slots. A spellcaster always has the option to fill a higher-level spell slot with a lower-level spell. A spellcaster who lacks a high enough ability score to cast spells that would otherwise be his or her due still gets the slots but must fill them with spells of lower level. (I found this at [URL=http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicOverview/arcaneSpells.htm]http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicOverview/arcaneSpells.htm[/URL]) A wizard with a 17 Int will only be able to prepare 7th level spells and below (because "to prepare a spell the wizard must have an Intelligence score of at least 10 + the spell’s level"). At 15th level, when that wizard gets his first level 8 spell slot, he won't be able to fill it with any level 8 spells, because he won't be intelligent enough to cast level 8 spells. The above quoted rule, however, allows him to utilize his level 8 spell slot to cast a lower level spell each day. Similarly, if a wizard is so intelligent that he gets a bonus slot for a spell of a certain level, but hasn't gained enough experience to have learned any spells of that level yet, shouldn't he be able to use that slot to cast a lower level spell? Is this against the rules? What do you guys think? [/QUOTE]
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