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Message: <blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 5123704" data-attributes="member: 463">BTW the Forge GNS model was based on the older usenet Gamist-Dramatist-Simulationist model, which unlike GNS actually makes sense.  GDS distinguishes between the primary play goals (1) Game - challenge players; (2) Simulation of setting/environment, and (3) Drama  - creation of a compelling story.  GNS pushes Drama into Sim and blows up a particular narrow kind of play based on exploration of Premise, which they call Narrativism, into a favoured one of the Big Three.  GDS, unlike GNS, can be applies to a broad range of RPGs.  Using GDS it's not hard to see that the design of eg Buffy the Vampire Slayer RPG is primarily D, that Twilight: 2000 or Runequest are primarily S, and that OD&D is primarily G.  Whereas GNS declares that Buffy and Twilight 2000 are both Sim games - one simulating a post-apocalypse environment, the other simulating the TV show.Edit:  Note that when it comes to fictional-universe games, they can be either Dramatic or Simulationist in approach.  You can have a game set in Star Trek's postulated Federation where the likes of Kirk and co are the rare, one-in-a-million outliers they appear to be from the show.  The Stormbringer game pretty much works that way. Or you can have a Dramatist game where the player characters are Captain Kirk, or Kirk-like analogues, who experience (and survive) adventures very much like those of the Enterprise crew.  Buffy TVS game works like that.</blockquote>

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