Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Go to Hell. Go Directly to Hell. Do Not Pass Go. Do Not Collect 200 Larvae.
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Lonely Tylenol" data-source="post: 2133097" data-attributes="member: 18549"><p>I'm not sure about that. Hades is generally described as being a place of ultimate boredom, in which the spirits of the dead, grey and washed out to transluscence, mill about aimlessly for all time. I think that the fire & brimstone thing was added in the renaissance, but I might be wrong about that.</p><p></p><p>A professor of mine translates Sheol to mean something more like "rubbish pit". As in, once you're used up and done, you get chucked into a hole and forgotten about. A happy afterlife was a late addition to the mythology, and so many ancient prayers run along the lines of "preserve me and don't throw me in the pit." Long life was the most you could really ask for.</p><p></p><p>One thing I've never really understood is, if the devils got thrown out of heaven, and launched into hell, why do they hate humanity so much? In Dante, it's because humanity doesn't know what they're missing, but I don't see any reason why the devils wouldn't want to establish their own paradise, under their own rules...which must have been the impetus to revolt in the first place. So you'd think they'd come across like time-share salesmen, rather than wicked tempters. They'd want to offer "all the fun and pleasure you'd expect from eternal paradise, with none of the starchy rules! It's like Club Med without the hangovers!" And then once they've got the bulk of humanity having a grand ole time in "hell", wondering why they ever considered following the rules that would get them into heaven, the devils could spend eternity gloating over their victory of ideals. </p><p></p><p>Humanity isn't a foe to torment for failure to serve the enemy's purposes, but rather a neutral party that exists only to provide bragging rights to the side who can claim the larger group of supporters. Humanity tests the ideals that the two opposing philosophies espouse, and whoever gets the lions share of humanity also gets the right to claim that their philosophy was obviously the better one.</p><p></p><p>At least, that's what I'd do if I were the devils. And since I'm the DM...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lonely Tylenol, post: 2133097, member: 18549"] I'm not sure about that. Hades is generally described as being a place of ultimate boredom, in which the spirits of the dead, grey and washed out to transluscence, mill about aimlessly for all time. I think that the fire & brimstone thing was added in the renaissance, but I might be wrong about that. A professor of mine translates Sheol to mean something more like "rubbish pit". As in, once you're used up and done, you get chucked into a hole and forgotten about. A happy afterlife was a late addition to the mythology, and so many ancient prayers run along the lines of "preserve me and don't throw me in the pit." Long life was the most you could really ask for. One thing I've never really understood is, if the devils got thrown out of heaven, and launched into hell, why do they hate humanity so much? In Dante, it's because humanity doesn't know what they're missing, but I don't see any reason why the devils wouldn't want to establish their own paradise, under their own rules...which must have been the impetus to revolt in the first place. So you'd think they'd come across like time-share salesmen, rather than wicked tempters. They'd want to offer "all the fun and pleasure you'd expect from eternal paradise, with none of the starchy rules! It's like Club Med without the hangovers!" And then once they've got the bulk of humanity having a grand ole time in "hell", wondering why they ever considered following the rules that would get them into heaven, the devils could spend eternity gloating over their victory of ideals. Humanity isn't a foe to torment for failure to serve the enemy's purposes, but rather a neutral party that exists only to provide bragging rights to the side who can claim the larger group of supporters. Humanity tests the ideals that the two opposing philosophies espouse, and whoever gets the lions share of humanity also gets the right to claim that their philosophy was obviously the better one. At least, that's what I'd do if I were the devils. And since I'm the DM... [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Go to Hell. Go Directly to Hell. Do Not Pass Go. Do Not Collect 200 Larvae.
Top