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<blockquote data-quote="small pumpkin man" data-source="post: 4107035" data-attributes="member: 57910"><p>Arguably, many other products like True20/M&M or even just Cyberpunk have done this, and did it before 3e, and D&D is unlikely to ever approach that type of actual universal system because that's not really what D&D's about. Doesn't mean they can't continue to build upon and fix the mistakes of the previous version.</p><p></p><p>More on topic, I'm going to argue that 3e was a good step in that direction, it just didn't make it all the way. Turning/Grapple etc. Also, note that the thing in particular that gets touted is easy/interesting things to do <em>in combat</em>. While you could argue that this is because 4e is totally combat orientated, another way to look at it is that the current d20 + skill modifer vs dc <em>works</em> (well, between levels 1-10 anyway), but the current choice between attack/opposed attack/touch attack/opposed stat check/save for made up in combat actions doesn't, at least not in the way skills do, or d20 + stat attack vs defense/dc hopefully does.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="small pumpkin man, post: 4107035, member: 57910"] Arguably, many other products like True20/M&M or even just Cyberpunk have done this, and did it before 3e, and D&D is unlikely to ever approach that type of actual universal system because that's not really what D&D's about. Doesn't mean they can't continue to build upon and fix the mistakes of the previous version. More on topic, I'm going to argue that 3e was a good step in that direction, it just didn't make it all the way. Turning/Grapple etc. Also, note that the thing in particular that gets touted is easy/interesting things to do [i]in combat[/i]. While you could argue that this is because 4e is totally combat orientated, another way to look at it is that the current d20 + skill modifer vs dc [i]works[/i] (well, between levels 1-10 anyway), but the current choice between attack/opposed attack/touch attack/opposed stat check/save for made up in combat actions doesn't, at least not in the way skills do, or d20 + stat attack vs defense/dc hopefully does. [/QUOTE]
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