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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arcanion" data-source="post: 9737889" data-attributes="member: 7053762">I've been researching on Orks and Goblins lately, as I'm about to be 3D printing and painting some different sized Orks and Goblinoids among these for enjoyment. We have some versions of them in popular books/games:LotR/HobbitWarhammer/40KWarcraft/WoWDnD/Baldur's Gate Magic the Gathering(...)I started my personal fantasy journey with "The Hobbit" as a child, then played MtG for 25+ years, read LotR, came across Baldurs Gate 1 and 2 and while I skipped both Warcraft 3, WoW and Warhammer tabletop - I still knew a bit about these games. 1. Afaik Tolkien made no differences between Orcs, Uruks and Goblins. They are all the same thing, just in different language. They are also grey, pale, ocre, brown or dark skinned.2. Warhammer made them green, brawny and of a different facial style (with tusks among other things)3. Magic already used Goblins (small) and Orcs (big) and mostly green skinned. Both rather on the dumb and chaotic side.4. Baldurs Gate and DnD had Goblins, Hobgoblins, Orcs, (also Gnomes, Gnolls, Bugbears...) not to speak of Half-Orcs.In general these might be the most well known ones in general fantasy apart from Uruks from big to small:[Ogre]Orcs/Orks: Tall, brawny, berserker type, in some franchises depicted as kinda dumbHobgoblin: Human size, soldier type, rather clever and disciplined (kinda like Tolkiens Uruks)Goblin: Small/Hobbit size and cunning also generally rather dumb, cowardly and chaotic[Gnome]Do you know any good sites with great backround information about Orks (Orcs) and Goblins? Different appearances through the fantasy media?</blockquote>

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