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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Christopher Lambert" data-source="post: 1888823" data-attributes="member: 25412">In a Dragonlance campaign I play in, my 3rd-level party got their butts handed to them by goblins. Twice. In consecutive encounters.However the second time they were winged goblins so I don't know if they count.The first time we got attacked by 2 5th-level warrior goblins. One shot us with a poisoned blowdart that inflicted a limited confusion effect (non-magical) and also inflicted -3 to hit. Every party member was affected by this, even the barbarian. Plus we occasionally tried to hit each other, but fortunately the -3 to hit saved our butts. Weird, that.He fired, then used the Hide skill (at a -10 penalty). Only two party members saw them more than occasionally when this happened. Good thing they weren't rogues.The second goblin had a red-hot poker but he got hit by the barbarian in the first round. Need I say more.There was an old Dragonlance book that had these types of goblins, along with goblins using morninstars with filth fever on them and goblins that would throw jars containing slimes, oozes, etc in them. Nasty.IMO a goblin should take Weapon Finesse and use a light weapon. Yeah the damage will suck, but that's not as bad as not hitting at all.</blockquote>