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<blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 9647550" data-attributes="member: 83242">I do not know all the science behind AI, though my son is a CS working on machine learning and AI so I do have access to a lot of information on this subject (though my wife is much more familiar with LLM than I am).&nbsp; All&nbsp; can say is, as an amateur artist, the process described by which AI creates images is not entirely dissimilar to how I &quot;feel&quot; I create art and how I hear artist describe how they create art. The difference, and ethical issue, for me is not in the &quot;stealing&quot; but the lack of effort and creativity of AI and its financial, environmental, and displacement of human capital / expertise cost.I mean it is simply a fact that artist steal from other artist and have done so for a long time. The method of how a human mind or AI does it, is less important to me (though maybe my ignorance is impacting my opinion on this)I do agree it is time to move on from this subject!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dave2008, post: 9647550, member: 83242"] I do not know all the science behind AI, though my son is a CS working on machine learning and AI so I do have access to a lot of information on this subject (though my wife is much more familiar with LLM than I am). All can say is, as an amateur artist, the process described by which AI creates images is not entirely dissimilar to how I "feel" I create art and how I hear artist describe how they create art. The difference, and ethical issue, for me is not in the "stealing" but the lack of effort and creativity of AI and its financial, environmental, and displacement of human capital / expertise cost. I mean it is simply a fact that artist steal from other artist and have done so for a long time. The method of how a human mind or AI does it, is less important to me (though maybe my ignorance is impacting my opinion on this) I do agree it is time to move on from this subject! [/QUOTE]

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