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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 9773963" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Glad you liked it. Initial response seems positive. I wish I had more room to detail more Petit Purviews and even stat-out NPCs like Grog God of Beers but the book is already titanic.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>'Officially' probably AO, maybe DR 14. If an Overgod is interacting with Gods then its not too far removed from them.</p><p></p><p>Mortals < Godlings < Gods < Great Old Ones/Elder Gods < Outer Gods/Overgods < Archons < Aeons < Monads < Finaliters < Ownons < Minds* < End Point (Information Singularity)</p><p></p><p>*Still toying with that category name.</p><p></p><p>Unofficially (in my Rules) there are two competing DR 38 entities, I don't want to reveal their names just yet.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ao is likely in the DR 11-14 Outer-god bracket (and could well be the same entity as D<strong>ao</strong>loth. His superior could be one of the Archons - but with nothing to go on we are just speculating.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Lady of <s>Pain</s> Fate will be in the book, she is DR 8</p><p></p><p>If we'd have hit the next stretch goal I would have added <s>Tharizdun</s> Erebus at DR 9.</p><p></p><p>The Serpent would also be DR 8 - I would equate him to Ahzi-Dahaka or Ahriman.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I've got an Adventure-Bestiary idea planned to do with the bottom of the Abyss so I won't comment on that...though it won't be the first Adventure Bestiary as that is indirectly Hell related.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Planet sized creatures (such as the Tera-Shark) will be around Divine Rank 11 (ie. Challenge Rating 56), those of Star size around DR 13-14 (Azathoth is DR 14).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Quasar Dragon was always a cool one.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Draeden were my favourite BECMI beasts.</p><p></p><p>I detailed my version of these in the 2005 Immortal's Handbook: Epic Bestiary, where I called them the Cogent.</p><p></p><p>I will likely have a CR 36 version in the new God Rules Bestiary. They are the brains of Great Old Ones and they consume the Dead Gods floating in the Astral Plane and can devour their heads and animate the mountainous stone-corpses to do battle against whole Pantheons.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Maybe Divine Rank 16 ish. I have a weird Constellation based monster but don't want to reveal it yet.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Cool. Does anyone else know anything about these?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Challenge Rating 90 was certainly high for 3rd Edition though it was only about Intermediate God (Divine Rank 5) in power. That said if I was doing a Time Dragon I'd likely have it at least CR 40/Divine Rank 7.</p><p></p><p>Dragons are a bit slippery to give a good Challenge Rating to because Ancient Dragons are effectively akin to Demigods (albeit without Mythic Form).</p><p></p><p>CR 24 = Ancient 'Mortal' Dragons.</p><p>CR 28 = Ancient Fey/Shadowfell Dragons</p><p>CR 32-36 = Ancient Astral/Elemental Dragons</p><p>CR 40-48 = Ancient Fear/Time Dragons</p><p>CR 56-64 = Cosmic Dragons</p><p></p><p>I'll have it all worked out for the Bestiary though. I think the big problem is just having Tiamat and Bahamut as Intermediate Deities.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Any other details? I have a simple Paragon template for 5e, adds +16 to Challenge Rating. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In God Rules there is no such thing as Un-stat'able my friend. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Literally my job amigo. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60d.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":love:" title="Love :love:" data-smilie="16"data-shortname=":love:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 9773963, member: 326"] Glad you liked it. Initial response seems positive. I wish I had more room to detail more Petit Purviews and even stat-out NPCs like Grog God of Beers but the book is already titanic. 'Officially' probably AO, maybe DR 14. If an Overgod is interacting with Gods then its not too far removed from them. Mortals < Godlings < Gods < Great Old Ones/Elder Gods < Outer Gods/Overgods < Archons < Aeons < Monads < Finaliters < Ownons < Minds* < End Point (Information Singularity) *Still toying with that category name. Unofficially (in my Rules) there are two competing DR 38 entities, I don't want to reveal their names just yet. Ao is likely in the DR 11-14 Outer-god bracket (and could well be the same entity as D[B]ao[/B]loth. His superior could be one of the Archons - but with nothing to go on we are just speculating. The Lady of [S]Pain[/S] Fate will be in the book, she is DR 8 If we'd have hit the next stretch goal I would have added [S]Tharizdun[/S] Erebus at DR 9. The Serpent would also be DR 8 - I would equate him to Ahzi-Dahaka or Ahriman. I've got an Adventure-Bestiary idea planned to do with the bottom of the Abyss so I won't comment on that...though it won't be the first Adventure Bestiary as that is indirectly Hell related. Planet sized creatures (such as the Tera-Shark) will be around Divine Rank 11 (ie. Challenge Rating 56), those of Star size around DR 13-14 (Azathoth is DR 14). The Quasar Dragon was always a cool one. The Draeden were my favourite BECMI beasts. I detailed my version of these in the 2005 Immortal's Handbook: Epic Bestiary, where I called them the Cogent. I will likely have a CR 36 version in the new God Rules Bestiary. They are the brains of Great Old Ones and they consume the Dead Gods floating in the Astral Plane and can devour their heads and animate the mountainous stone-corpses to do battle against whole Pantheons. Maybe Divine Rank 16 ish. I have a weird Constellation based monster but don't want to reveal it yet. Cool. Does anyone else know anything about these? Challenge Rating 90 was certainly high for 3rd Edition though it was only about Intermediate God (Divine Rank 5) in power. That said if I was doing a Time Dragon I'd likely have it at least CR 40/Divine Rank 7. Dragons are a bit slippery to give a good Challenge Rating to because Ancient Dragons are effectively akin to Demigods (albeit without Mythic Form). CR 24 = Ancient 'Mortal' Dragons. CR 28 = Ancient Fey/Shadowfell Dragons CR 32-36 = Ancient Astral/Elemental Dragons CR 40-48 = Ancient Fear/Time Dragons CR 56-64 = Cosmic Dragons I'll have it all worked out for the Bestiary though. I think the big problem is just having Tiamat and Bahamut as Intermediate Deities. Any other details? I have a simple Paragon template for 5e, adds +16 to Challenge Rating. In God Rules there is no such thing as Un-stat'able my friend. :cool: Literally my job amigo. :love: [/QUOTE]
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