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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 9865961" data-attributes="member: 326">Thanks amigo.The way it's meant to work is if you use a Gravitic, attack on an 80 Hit Dice Monster it's as if the caster is 80 Hit Dice themselves (though the damage is capped at double its initial power).That said, I agree Gravitic damage is a bit confusing. I had an alternate version (where you are instead weakened til the end of your next turn - reflecting how gravity is weighing you down) - but that might be too prone to abuse.One possibility is to make Chthonic require a long rest to heal, then use the Fragile condition (Vulnerable to all damage) for Gravitic. That puts Chthonic in line with Undead attacks that deny healing and lower max. Hp.in 3rd Edition I had Gravitic deal a percentage of your hit points, that might work if it's a percentage of current hp, a percentage of max hit points would be too powerful.I'll figure out something simpler.In such cases I would just say you save on a 10.Mutagenic damage infects non-mutant health/hit points. So yes one growth will infect other beings and could lead to a gibbering army.had to throw in a bit of Darkseid-style blasting for fun.thanks for the kind works and feedback amigo.</blockquote>