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<blockquote data-quote="LuisCarlos17f" data-source="post: 7621142" data-attributes="member: 6802378"><p>In my setting deities are real, but not necessary to get divine magic. Some shamans and warlocks worship ancestors, totems, vestiges or kami (feys). Almost nobody is really atheist, and everybody accept the afterlife planes, also celestial and infernal, as a reality. Somebody may be misotheist (he hates gods) or maltheist (his opinion is gods aren't good or they really don't worry for the mortals). The fear to a eternal punishment in the infernal planes is general, but some criminals think they only be punished in the afterlife for crimes against followers of the same deity (or infernal lord). </p><p></p><p>There are some followers of deism, this means they accept gods, or a supreme pantocrator, but neither religion nor clery are necessary. Or they opinion is there is a Cosmic Force, but this power isn't a sentient spirit, and without self-awareness. </p><p></p><p>As hook or source of new stories of conflict I also add psionic ardents and favored souls, with a hate-love relation with the rest of divine spellcasters. I don't imagine the favored souls like sorcerers with armour and divine spells but with class features like a softer version of monster templates (half-celestial, half-fey, half-dragon..). The psionic ardents could be allies of clerics with the same religion, but they don't need to show their faith, nor being followers of any deity. They could work like "freelance" or infiltrators or sleeping agents within a rival clery, maybe close a temporal monolatry, this means are followers of certain god but only working for her for some time and after they could work for other cult, like a autonomous worker with divine magic. </p><p></p><p>And I imagine warlocks as a remake of binders and pact magic with vestiges. They wouldn't be arcane spellcasters but primal, like druids, rangers, shamans, wardens and seekers. Some vestiges wouldn't spirits from a beyond plane but special "living" beings like demigods, ancient wyrms, lord feys...or maybe a lord mummy or a lich. Some warlocks/binders would try to a vestige to become a help, or the redemption of a fallen angel or other former celestial being. In a way this warlocks or binders they are also their own version of religion. Some powers given by vestiges would be like softer version of levels of template class (or half-blood racial class).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LuisCarlos17f, post: 7621142, member: 6802378"] In my setting deities are real, but not necessary to get divine magic. Some shamans and warlocks worship ancestors, totems, vestiges or kami (feys). Almost nobody is really atheist, and everybody accept the afterlife planes, also celestial and infernal, as a reality. Somebody may be misotheist (he hates gods) or maltheist (his opinion is gods aren't good or they really don't worry for the mortals). The fear to a eternal punishment in the infernal planes is general, but some criminals think they only be punished in the afterlife for crimes against followers of the same deity (or infernal lord). There are some followers of deism, this means they accept gods, or a supreme pantocrator, but neither religion nor clery are necessary. Or they opinion is there is a Cosmic Force, but this power isn't a sentient spirit, and without self-awareness. As hook or source of new stories of conflict I also add psionic ardents and favored souls, with a hate-love relation with the rest of divine spellcasters. I don't imagine the favored souls like sorcerers with armour and divine spells but with class features like a softer version of monster templates (half-celestial, half-fey, half-dragon..). The psionic ardents could be allies of clerics with the same religion, but they don't need to show their faith, nor being followers of any deity. They could work like "freelance" or infiltrators or sleeping agents within a rival clery, maybe close a temporal monolatry, this means are followers of certain god but only working for her for some time and after they could work for other cult, like a autonomous worker with divine magic. And I imagine warlocks as a remake of binders and pact magic with vestiges. They wouldn't be arcane spellcasters but primal, like druids, rangers, shamans, wardens and seekers. Some vestiges wouldn't spirits from a beyond plane but special "living" beings like demigods, ancient wyrms, lord feys...or maybe a lord mummy or a lich. Some warlocks/binders would try to a vestige to become a help, or the redemption of a fallen angel or other former celestial being. In a way this warlocks or binders they are also their own version of religion. Some powers given by vestiges would be like softer version of levels of template class (or half-blood racial class). [/QUOTE]
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