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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 6075062" data-attributes="member: 9037">I don't usually have a issue with clerics in my game when it does come it is usually because a party member has done something that is totally offensive to the god and the party cleric finds he can't heal him. I have been lucky that my players who play clerics try and really play them by the tenets of their chosen god. The druids sometimes ask for payment of some kind but that does not involve a geas or a threat of losing your life if you don't comply and it is asked of the people seeking to reincarnate their dead. Also the druids just don't do it willy nilly you have to convince them that the person needs to finish something important. It takes a lot because they consider the balance of the all things. They might grant a young father or mother a chance to come back because there is no one to care for their young children yet they will turn down a great king. That is how I usually do druids but raise dead is available and people risk it.In my current campaign I wanted a way to bring back a PC who died but I didn't want a lot of divine cleric style magic in the game so I said that druids can reincarnate but it is not common knowledge they don't go around doing it a lot.  Actually I have a long time ago and until you mentioned it did not see the connection. In my game there was a great war between Tiamat and Bahmut the  "good"guys were losing so in last ditch attempt to save the people of this world a barrier was thrown up Bahmut was "killed" in the process. This protected the world from the "evil" gods but also stopped the good gods from reaching their followers. The battle was not so much a war of good vs evil but a war over freedom and iron rule. Tiamat side was against the lessor races the humans, dwarves, kobolds, gnomes and the wild elves having the freedom to choice their destiny. She felt that they showed be ruled with an iron hand for everyone sake. The other side disagreed on the principle that that kind of lack of freedom is tyranny.  Bahmut was not killed but he was severely weakened on the other planes as well.</blockquote>

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