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<blockquote data-quote="Jeffrie" data-source="post: 5676778" data-attributes="member: 93465">You like Mindbender? I was thinking telepathy was a good class feat for a one level dip. Any other suggestions?6+1x23= (161 +(7x23)=161)= 322<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/appraise.htm" target="_blank">Appraise&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 10 + Facto level 
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<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/balance.htm" target="_blank">Balance&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; Synergy 
</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/bluff.htm" target="_blank">Bluff&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 10 
</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/climb.htm" target="_blank">Climb&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 5 
</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/concentration.htm" target="_blank">Concentration&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; Max or not needed for SLAs? 
</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/craft.htm" target="_blank">Craft&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; T10 Untrained 
</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/decipherScript.htm" target="_blank">Decipher Script&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Synergy UMD Scrolls 
</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/diplomacy.htm" target="_blank">Diplomacy&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 23&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Max for opposed rolls 
</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/disableDevice.htm" target="_blank">Disable Device&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 10&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Max for Worst Case??? 
</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/disguise.htm" target="_blank">Disguise&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 23&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; </a><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/diplomacy.htm" target="_blank">Max for opposed rolls</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/escapeArtist.htm" target="_blank">Escape Artist&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Synergy 
</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/forgery.htm" target="_blank">Forgery&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; </a><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/gatherInformation.htm" target="_blank">1 + Facto level</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/gatherInformation.htm" target="_blank">Gather Information 15 + Facto level 
</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/handleAnimal.htm" target="_blank">Handle Animal&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Synergy 
</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/heal.htm" target="_blank">Heal&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; </a><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/gatherInformation.htm" target="_blank">1 + Facto level</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/hide.htm" target="_blank">Hide&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 20 
</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/intimidate.htm" target="_blank">Intimidate&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; </a><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/gatherInformation.htm" target="_blank">1 + Facto level</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/jump.htm" target="_blank">Jump&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </a><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/gatherInformation.htm" target="_blank">5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Synergy 
</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/knowledge.htm" target="_blank">Knowledge</a><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/craft.htm" target="_blank">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 10&nbsp; (1ea+Facto level 
</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/listen.htm" target="_blank">Listen&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 20 
</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/moveSilently.htm" target="_blank">Move Silently&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 20 
</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/openLock.htm" target="_blank">Open Lock&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; </a><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/gatherInformation.htm" target="_blank">1 + Facto level</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/perform.htm" target="_blank">Perform</a><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/craft.htm" target="_blank">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 2 (1ea+Facto </a><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/craft.htm" target="_blank">Acting, Oratory, or Untrained </a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/profession.htm" target="_blank">Profession</a><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/craft.htm" target="_blank">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; T10 JoaT</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/ride.htm" target="_blank">Ride&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 5 
</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/search.htm" target="_blank">Search&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Synergy tracks 
</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/senseMotive.htm" target="_blank">Sense Motive&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 23 
</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/sleightOfHand.htm" target="_blank">Sleight Of Hand&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </a><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/gatherInformation.htm" target="_blank">1 + Facto level</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/speakLanguage.htm" target="_blank">Speak Language&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 10&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Love it 
</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/spellcraft.htm" target="_blank">Spellcraft&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; </a><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/gatherInformation.htm" target="_blank">10&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Synergy UMD 
</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/spot.htm" target="_blank">Spot&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 20 
</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/survival.htm" target="_blank">Survival</a><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/gatherInformation.htm" target="_blank">5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Synergy Know nature 
</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/swim.htm" target="_blank">Swim&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; </a><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/gatherInformation.htm" target="_blank">1 + Facto level</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/tumble.htm" target="_blank">Tumble&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 10 
</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/useMagicDevice.htm" target="_blank">Use Magic Device&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 23&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Max 
</a></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/useRope.htm" target="_blank">Use Rope&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 5</a></li>
</ul>`````````````total`````322Well you can see what i'm trying to do; what doesn't work?Do i really need Jack of all Trades just for Take10 on all Profession? Is it worth it (I could see using it)? Or is it better to find 10 points and put one in each?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jeffrie, post: 5676778, member: 93465"] You like Mindbender? I was thinking telepathy was a good class feat for a one level dip. Any other suggestions? 6+1x23= (161 +(7x23)=161)= 322 [LIST] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/appraise.htm"]Appraise 10 + Facto level [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/balance.htm"]Balance 5 Synergy [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/bluff.htm"]Bluff 10 [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/climb.htm"]Climb 5 [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/concentration.htm"]Concentration 1 Max or not needed for SLAs? [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/craft.htm"]Craft 0 T10 Untrained [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/decipherScript.htm"]Decipher Script 5 Synergy UMD Scrolls [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/diplomacy.htm"]Diplomacy 23 Max for opposed rolls [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/disableDevice.htm"]Disable Device 10 Max for Worst Case??? [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/disguise.htm"]Disguise 23 [/URL][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/diplomacy.htm"]Max for opposed rolls[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/escapeArtist.htm"]Escape Artist 5 Synergy [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/forgery.htm"]Forgery [/URL][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/gatherInformation.htm"]1 + Facto level[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/gatherInformation.htm"]Gather Information 15 + Facto level [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/handleAnimal.htm"]Handle Animal 5 Synergy [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/heal.htm"]Heal [/URL][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/gatherInformation.htm"]1 + Facto level[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/hide.htm"]Hide 20 [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/intimidate.htm"]Intimidate [/URL][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/gatherInformation.htm"]1 + Facto level[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/jump.htm"]Jump [/URL][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/gatherInformation.htm"]5 Synergy [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/knowledge.htm"]Knowledge[/URL][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/craft.htm"] 10 (1ea+Facto level [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/listen.htm"]Listen 20 [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/moveSilently.htm"]Move Silently 20 [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/openLock.htm"]Open Lock [/URL][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/gatherInformation.htm"]1 + Facto level[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/perform.htm"]Perform[/URL][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/craft.htm"] 2 (1ea+Facto [/URL][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/craft.htm"]Acting, Oratory, or Untrained [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/profession.htm"]Profession[/URL][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/craft.htm"] 0 T10 JoaT[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/ride.htm"]Ride 5 [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/search.htm"]Search 5 Synergy tracks [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/senseMotive.htm"]Sense Motive 23 [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/sleightOfHand.htm"]Sleight Of Hand [/URL][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/gatherInformation.htm"]1 + Facto level[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/speakLanguage.htm"]Speak Language 10 Love it [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/spellcraft.htm"]Spellcraft [/URL][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/gatherInformation.htm"]10 Synergy UMD [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/spot.htm"]Spot 20 [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/survival.htm"]Survival[/URL][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/gatherInformation.htm"]5 Synergy Know nature [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/swim.htm"]Swim [/URL][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/gatherInformation.htm"]1 + Facto level[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/tumble.htm"]Tumble 10 [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/useMagicDevice.htm"]Use Magic Device 23 Max [/URL] [*][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/useRope.htm"]Use Rope 5[/URL] [/LIST] `````````````total`````322 Well you can see what i'm trying to do; what doesn't work? Do i really need Jack of all Trades just for Take10 on all Profession? Is it worth it (I could see using it)? Or is it better to find 10 points and put one in each? [/QUOTE]

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