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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Skyscraper" data-source="post: 4473379" data-attributes="member: 48518">My suggestion: have all the damage dealt by the attacker be subdual damage (which is allowed anyway). Once he gets the creature to 0 HP, the creature is pinned instead of killed (again, allowed by the rules).But what if my PC wants to pin him in a single round, you say? Well, i'm sure he'd like that. Likewise, i'm sure he'd like to kill every opponent within a single round when engaged in mortal combat.However, it just takes longer. Period. That creature being grabbed will make every effort to wriggle free. If you want to include powers (like pinning) that allow a creature to be eliminated by another from combat in a single round, i think you're imbalancing your game significantly.Pinning someone to the ground is really hard to do. Have you ever tried that? I used to wrestle with my brothers (i have four), some friends and then teens when i was camp councilor and the 15-years old thought they were strong enough to take me on <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Anyway, my point is, jumping on someone and pinning him to the ground is very difficult. It takes time, and agaisnt someone of a similar strength you might become exhausted before you make it.It's quite realistic to consider that it takes several rounds, say enough to get the creautre to zero hit points, before you can pin him.But, you ask, what if the creature is small and weak, say like a goblin, and i'm a big strong dragonborn? Why couldn't I pin him quickly then?Well, you can't pin him in a single round for the same reason you can't kill him in a single round if you attack him in melee. Why doesn't your sword cleave through his skull in a single round, even though you're big and strong and he, small and weak? He may be small, but he's sly, he has powers, perhaps magic, and he'll use it against you to defend his hide. He has that many hit points, notwithstanding whether you're trying to kill him or pin him. He won't go down that easy.Sky</blockquote>

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