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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Toryx" data-source="post: 4050695" data-attributes="member: 56441">I've not played SWSE so I didn't know about +5 for cover, but in the end that's what I voted for. Personally, I prefer a variable amount with +5 at the upper range (complete cover being unhittable). But I really think they should make some coherent rules for using cover effectively.The difficulty is, taking cover from ranged attacks and making ranged attacks from cover are very different from cover used in melee attacks, and I'm not sure how to make a strong system that isn't too complex.In most every D&D game I've ever played I've seen players, especially those playing casters, want to use cover fairly regularly, but there's never been any effective way to deal with someone hiding behind a wall, poking their head out and using a wall and then ducking back. In 3.x you could use Shot on the Run, I suppose, but that sort of simplicity of motion shouldn't require a feat. On the other hand, ducking in and out of battle to shoot from behind cover shouldn't exactly be easy either, so I always thought that depending on the amount of cover obtained (+2 for small cover, +4 or +5 for large) there should also be a penalty for the attack from cover as well, simply because it's difficult to take aim when jumping back and forth like that.For some reason, though, the rules have never seemed to cover that so far as I know, and given the simplicity of 4e (from all I've seen) I doubt they'll do it in the new edition either.</blockquote>

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