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<blockquote data-quote="LoganRan" data-source="post: 8324917" data-attributes="member: 7030686"><p>I emphasized "logarithmic" because I have often felt that this would be the best paradigm for all character advancement.</p><p></p><p>Generally, it seems that many gamers feel that D&D's "sweet spot" is at levels 3-10 (or 3-12 at most). Your characters are powerful enough (i.e. have enough hit points) that they are not dropping like flies in every combat encounter but haven't reached the point where they have so many options and powerful abilities that the DM is hard pressed to run interesting and manageable combat encounters.</p><p></p><p>If I were re-designing D&D using the 5E framework, I would have 1st level in my game be equivalent to 3rd level in 5E while 20th level in my game would be equivalent to about 11th level in 5E.</p><p></p><p>I think the biggest obstacle to doing this would be finding ways to not annoy players who despise the notion of "dead levels" as it might be necessary to have a few levels where the "only" upgrade a character got was an additional hit die worth of hit points.</p><p></p><p>Btw, this would achieve a personal goal of lowering the magic in D&D as the highest spell level possible in this framework would be a 6th level spell that you would only get at 20th level of character advancement.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LoganRan, post: 8324917, member: 7030686"] I emphasized "logarithmic" because I have often felt that this would be the best paradigm for all character advancement. Generally, it seems that many gamers feel that D&D's "sweet spot" is at levels 3-10 (or 3-12 at most). Your characters are powerful enough (i.e. have enough hit points) that they are not dropping like flies in every combat encounter but haven't reached the point where they have so many options and powerful abilities that the DM is hard pressed to run interesting and manageable combat encounters. If I were re-designing D&D using the 5E framework, I would have 1st level in my game be equivalent to 3rd level in 5E while 20th level in my game would be equivalent to about 11th level in 5E. I think the biggest obstacle to doing this would be finding ways to not annoy players who despise the notion of "dead levels" as it might be necessary to have a few levels where the "only" upgrade a character got was an additional hit die worth of hit points. Btw, this would achieve a personal goal of lowering the magic in D&D as the highest spell level possible in this framework would be a 6th level spell that you would only get at 20th level of character advancement. [/QUOTE]
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