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<blockquote data-quote="Wraith-Hunter" data-source="post: 3317307" data-attributes="member: 48298"><p>And in another quote you mention it being impractical and deadliest weapon. </p><p></p><p>Not knowing how CoC does the damage on them. Yes they are impracticle, but hardly the deadliest. They weaker than a normal shot gun, nearly impossible to shoot with any degree of accuracy. They are mearly a cheap sub standard concealable weapon. </p><p></p><p>And the "single purpose of killing another human being" More like wound unless you are less than a foot away, and no more powerful than a normal shot gun. Their only advantage is concealable. There is also no 911 so unelss he is running around town waving it around like amad man and there is not a cop right there then it is unlikely all of NY's finest will be around the next corner to perforate him. There is nothing wrong with something 'soley designed to kill a human being' a tool is a tool. <u>This is NO differant than a sword</u>. It has no purpose but to hurt men. You can't hunt with it. A sword has no morals it only does what a person does with it, its simply a tool. In the hands of good people it protects and is used in the defense of home/country the same of any firearm. Short barreled shotgun would be better suited to personal defense than offence in cramped quarters than a full size shotgun. And poorly suited to offence because of its lack of range and horrible pattern. Though nearly any decent calliber pistol would be better.</p><p></p><p>The only source I know of positive battle field experience with short barreled shotguns (longer than your Mad Max type and pump operated) was in vietnam as with using buckshot it would instantly put out 9 00 buck shot for each trigger pull and for a very short time you could put out more lead than an automatic weapon. You also could not see past 2 feet from jungle concealment. Or in tunnel work, but usually the tunnel rats would use a 1911 for that. These shot guns would be bewtween 14-18 inches long.</p><p></p><p>For all we know the character in question was an Indiana Jones wanna be and had limited weapon prof slots, playing in a game where the GM likes to TPK at every chance and wonders why characters metagame. If the Gm metagames like that it forces the players to.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wraith-Hunter, post: 3317307, member: 48298"] And in another quote you mention it being impractical and deadliest weapon. Not knowing how CoC does the damage on them. Yes they are impracticle, but hardly the deadliest. They weaker than a normal shot gun, nearly impossible to shoot with any degree of accuracy. They are mearly a cheap sub standard concealable weapon. And the "single purpose of killing another human being" More like wound unless you are less than a foot away, and no more powerful than a normal shot gun. Their only advantage is concealable. There is also no 911 so unelss he is running around town waving it around like amad man and there is not a cop right there then it is unlikely all of NY's finest will be around the next corner to perforate him. There is nothing wrong with something 'soley designed to kill a human being' a tool is a tool. [U]This is NO differant than a sword[/U]. It has no purpose but to hurt men. You can't hunt with it. A sword has no morals it only does what a person does with it, its simply a tool. In the hands of good people it protects and is used in the defense of home/country the same of any firearm. Short barreled shotgun would be better suited to personal defense than offence in cramped quarters than a full size shotgun. And poorly suited to offence because of its lack of range and horrible pattern. Though nearly any decent calliber pistol would be better. The only source I know of positive battle field experience with short barreled shotguns (longer than your Mad Max type and pump operated) was in vietnam as with using buckshot it would instantly put out 9 00 buck shot for each trigger pull and for a very short time you could put out more lead than an automatic weapon. You also could not see past 2 feet from jungle concealment. Or in tunnel work, but usually the tunnel rats would use a 1911 for that. These shot guns would be bewtween 14-18 inches long. For all we know the character in question was an Indiana Jones wanna be and had limited weapon prof slots, playing in a game where the GM likes to TPK at every chance and wonders why characters metagame. If the Gm metagames like that it forces the players to. [/QUOTE]
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