Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Gold or Silver Standard?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="ZombieRoboNinja" data-source="post: 4003602" data-attributes="member: 54843"><p>I'm pretty sure they don't mean that the selling price is equal to the crafting price, but rather that the crafting price and selling price are EACH identical for a given item.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>"Wealth and item requirements" ≠ "wealth-by-level requirements." First off, wealth-by-level was CLEARLY a suggestion in 3e, not a "requirement." You could easily ignore those tables altogether.</p><p></p><p>Secondly, just because players are assumed to have a certain amount of wealth/resources doesn't mean that those resources will be as necessary in 4e as they were in 3e. For example, I'm guessing/hoping that 4e will see the end of monsters with DR that requires magic weapons to overcome. We already KNOW that they're making certain other magical items less mandatory by doing things like giving red dragons the ability to "burn away" your fire resistance. And the move to per-encounter and at-will spells means that you won't need to carry around wands of Cure Light Wounds to heal up the party between encounters, while abilities like Second Wind will probably limit the party's reliance on healing potions.</p><p></p><p>So basically, a 15th-level party with no magical items will certainly be less powerful than a 15th-level party with the "recommended" wealth, but in 4e the DM can hopefully adjust for that by just pitting the party against monsters a couple levels lower, rather than radically adjusting stuff as you'd have to do in 3e.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ZombieRoboNinja, post: 4003602, member: 54843"] I'm pretty sure they don't mean that the selling price is equal to the crafting price, but rather that the crafting price and selling price are EACH identical for a given item. "Wealth and item requirements" ≠ "wealth-by-level requirements." First off, wealth-by-level was CLEARLY a suggestion in 3e, not a "requirement." You could easily ignore those tables altogether. Secondly, just because players are assumed to have a certain amount of wealth/resources doesn't mean that those resources will be as necessary in 4e as they were in 3e. For example, I'm guessing/hoping that 4e will see the end of monsters with DR that requires magic weapons to overcome. We already KNOW that they're making certain other magical items less mandatory by doing things like giving red dragons the ability to "burn away" your fire resistance. And the move to per-encounter and at-will spells means that you won't need to carry around wands of Cure Light Wounds to heal up the party between encounters, while abilities like Second Wind will probably limit the party's reliance on healing potions. So basically, a 15th-level party with no magical items will certainly be less powerful than a 15th-level party with the "recommended" wealth, but in 4e the DM can hopefully adjust for that by just pitting the party against monsters a couple levels lower, rather than radically adjusting stuff as you'd have to do in 3e. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Gold or Silver Standard?
Top