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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 9200526" data-attributes="member: 12731"><p>Not a good argument to not provide magic item pricing.</p><p></p><p>The decision point should be "how much gold to award the party". </p><p>Not "I can hand out as much gold as I like since it's all functionally useless anyway unless I do the hard work myself".</p><p></p><p></p><p>No thanks. Nothing about 4E is relevant to 5E, and I see no point whatsoever to discuss that edition.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If what you're saying is that you cannot ever ask for something to become better, <strong>I vehemently disagree.</strong> You should definitely be able to tell your pudding vendor their product isn't butterscotchy enough, especially since you pay good money for it.</p><p></p><p>You should definitely be able to do this if your pudding vendor used to put butterscotch into their chocolate pudding, but suddenly decided it was hard and just stopped. </p><p></p><p>And you should ABSOLUTELY do this if the vendor then claimed "you don't need any butterscotch in your pudding" in a brazen attempt to justify their lesser product.</p><p></p><p>---</p><p></p><p>I absolutely would like to take this opportunity to point out that the lack of reasonable (as opposed to the "pluck numbers out of thin air" non-solution that WotC tries to peddle) guidance on how to "turn gold into combat ability" is <strong>perhaps the biggest failing of 5th Edition</strong>, full stop.</p><p></p><p>That official adventures keep handing out gobs of gold while providing only useless advice to groups that want to keep adventuring (and thus have no interest in orphanage-building) is a very large irritant.</p><p></p><p>WotC <strong>definitely</strong> needs to be held accountable for this attempt at trying to both eat the cake (satisfy gamers that like getting gold) and still have it (not have to do the gruntwork in actually supporting usages of all that gold).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 9200526, member: 12731"] Not a good argument to not provide magic item pricing. The decision point should be "how much gold to award the party". Not "I can hand out as much gold as I like since it's all functionally useless anyway unless I do the hard work myself". No thanks. Nothing about 4E is relevant to 5E, and I see no point whatsoever to discuss that edition. If what you're saying is that you cannot ever ask for something to become better, [B]I vehemently disagree.[/B] You should definitely be able to tell your pudding vendor their product isn't butterscotchy enough, especially since you pay good money for it. You should definitely be able to do this if your pudding vendor used to put butterscotch into their chocolate pudding, but suddenly decided it was hard and just stopped. And you should ABSOLUTELY do this if the vendor then claimed "you don't need any butterscotch in your pudding" in a brazen attempt to justify their lesser product. --- I absolutely would like to take this opportunity to point out that the lack of reasonable (as opposed to the "pluck numbers out of thin air" non-solution that WotC tries to peddle) guidance on how to "turn gold into combat ability" is [B]perhaps the biggest failing of 5th Edition[/B], full stop. That official adventures keep handing out gobs of gold while providing only useless advice to groups that want to keep adventuring (and thus have no interest in orphanage-building) is a very large irritant. WotC [B]definitely[/B] needs to be held accountable for this attempt at trying to both eat the cake (satisfy gamers that like getting gold) and still have it (not have to do the gruntwork in actually supporting usages of all that gold). [/QUOTE]
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